donald_macklin Posted December 22, 2004 Share Posted December 22, 2004 Your life is far too comfortable to accomodate random inevatibilities.I suggest you settle for cable T.V.,or a digicam ,and leave Leicadom for those of us with rougher hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry_rory Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Yes Donald, we should all just toughen up and accept these defects. All that whingeing about 3000 dollar cameras that are broken on arrival. Be a man and just live with it. Good message for us all. Thanks Donald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donald_macklin Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Trevor,one should just deal with the situation.I never meant to imply that one accept a faulty device.If I purchase a product that is clearly defective,I return it for a new one, or get a refund.I don't take it personally.And I don't phone up all my friends immediately and whine at length about such gall and effrontery perpetrated by the manufacturer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john15 Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Donald: These QC issues are not just a once in awhile thing. Seems like they're just too common these days and hardly what one should expect with a camera as expensive as the MP. Some of us seem to worry a lot about film becoming extinct. It may just be that Leica will become extinct long before that happens. It will be interesting to see what happens to M sales when the new ZI hits the market next spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giles_poilu Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 This topic is nothing new - see this thread from a few years ago. The fact is Leica's are built in a totally different way in many respects to how they were in the glory days of the M2/3/4.<p>They simply cannot afford to build them like that again.<p> <a href="http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=002dk3">Leica M quality and pricing - don't make me laugh!</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsr Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Hey, people, nothing's perfect! When was the last time you bought a new auto that didn't have at least one niggling little defect? Before posting our petty gripes here, Leica should be given the chance to make thing right, which they WILL DO. There seem to be more Leica bashers here than supporters, with many not even using Leicas, but Leica clones. Yes, its disturbing when things go wrong, but no company will go further to accomodate a customer than Leica. Concerning the MP, I have one and I love it! If I could buy one without a built in meter, I would do so. I don't like any electronics or batteries in my cameras. They don't make anything easier, they only introduce another source of trouble. Concerning the M7 with the blinking light, is the lens cap removed? Best regards, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben z Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 "Concerning the MP, I have one and I love it! If I could buy one without a built in meter, I would do so. I don't like any electronics or batteries in my cameras." You're in luck! You can now get a meter-less MP, it sells for $6500. Leica's only charging $3700 to leave out the meter. But better hurry because Leica is only making 500 of them. Though I wouldn't be surprised if Leica makes the meter deletion a $500 option on the a la carte menu...after all 500 are sold to speculating collectors of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwilkins Posted December 25, 2004 Share Posted December 25, 2004 The problem with assertions like "all the old Leicas I've owned work great and I've had to have two warranty repairs" is that there's likely <i>survivorship bias</i> affecting that result.<p> Cameras which are still trading in the used market today have survived the initial evaluations by their owners, the trips back to Leica for repairs, and of course the trashbin in Weitzlar where the Leicas that cannot be repaired went.<p> -- Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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