tommy_baker Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 http://www.leica-camera.com/produkte/msystem/sondermodelle/mp_classic/ index_e.html<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_richardson Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 Hmm, why not just get this on the leica a la carte if you need it so badly? It would be the same thing, only with a meter. I suppose it is the lens that is the selling point. I must admit though, I find it a little odd. Despite to irrationality of buying the other special editions, at least they were equally as functional as the current offerings. For this camera, you are paying substantially more money for a camera that is less capable than one off the conveyer belt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_ng Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 WHY DIDNT THEY PUT A SELF-TIMER!!??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin m. Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 No meter + no focus tab = more money? I mean....OK, guys! Snap up these all-steel jewels so Leica can introduce a polycarbonate-body digital M! ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_hall1 Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 >WHY DIDNT THEY PUT A SELF-TIMER!!??? Confucius say: a wise man need a timer not, for he know the speed of time. He reset the frame-counter with own finger also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben z Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 I had the same reaction as Kevin. That set goes for E6,000 or $7500. The lens is a black-painted version of the "50th Anniversary" Summicron of 2003 which I've seen recently for $1400 in untouched mint condition. Let's give Leica a ludacrous $1100 for the paint job, that leaves you paying $5000 for a meterless MP vs $2800 for one with a meter. Hmmmmmm. I'll pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben z Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 BTW in the picture it looks like the shutter speed knob has the little milled slot for a Leicameter...wonder if they plan on bringing about an updated re-issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les_lammers Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 Oh, I dunno. There must be a market for it. There are many well heeled people in the world. I don't want one and can't afford it if I did lust for it. It's for collectors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Blackwell Images Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 WHY DIDNT THEY PUT A SELF-TIMER!!??? It is Leica's policy not to put a self-timer on a motorized body. This is why there hasn't been a self-timer on an M body since the M4-2. Don't ask why! “When you come to a fork in the road, take it ...” – Yogi Berra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bart feliciano Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 What?! Where's the MR-P meter to complete the set? Doh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy_baker Posted December 12, 2004 Author Share Posted December 12, 2004 There's no self-timer presumably as the original MP did not have one. However there are many other features they didn't try to match the original MP for probably production, cost and logistics reasons: - chrome lens release button and surround was black originally - round lugs instead of triangular - M2 outer counter - contoured top-plate: yes, I have heard all the CNC reasons, but for 5000 bucks I think they could have done it, as they did for the M6J - and most important of all, no matching engraved Leicavit MP Interesting the serial number, I wonder if they have continued the numbers after the last original ones were made.. looks like it. The only real selling point as has been pointed out is the BP 50 'cron, which I hope they will make a readily available lens on its own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_w. Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 One can get aftermarket BP jobs for much lees dough, but that doesn't get an "erection" from the "collectors". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Blackwell Images Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 It just occurred to me: Essentially what we have here is a $5,500 black paint M4-P set with traditional engraving added, no red dot, the old RW mechanism that everyone hates, and an upgraded MP finder. Except the M4-P is most likely overall a better built camera (it doesn't have any of the M6 downgrades). “When you come to a fork in the road, take it ...” – Yogi Berra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emanuel_lowi1 Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 These cameras are serial numbered 1-500. Numbers 1-400 go to Asia, the last hundred to the rest of the world. The original MP cameras (1956-57) were numbered 1-402. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r s Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 <i> the old RW mechanism that everyone hates</i> <br> I don't hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Blackwell Images Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 "I don't hate it." Perhaps I should have said, "disliked by most." I think those of us that like the old style MP RW knob are in the minority. My point was simply this: $5,500 includes quite a premium for special engraving and no meter. “When you come to a fork in the road, take it ...” – Yogi Berra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_hall1 Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 >Except the M4-P is most likely overall a better built camera (it doesn't have any of the M6 downgrades). Those "M6 downgrades" (if you don't include the TTL meter) like the flarey rangefinder supposedly started with the M4-2: http://cameraquest.com/mguide.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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