victor4 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Just wondering if anybody cares? 4 new auto focus MF lenses from Zeiss and not a single comment. Has anyone else even heard of the Sinar M. It's a pretty cool looking camera. Even Sinars own site doesn't mention the new upcoming lenses. Oh well... vic... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franka t.l. Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 The way Sinar priced their product, few of us can comment, right !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_langfelder Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 The funny thing is that the announcement on the Zeiss site (zeiss.de) had as an illustration a picture of the sinar M with a lens on it - the lens says 85mm 1:1.4D and looks a lot like a Nikkor. I think Zeiss doesn't even have specific plans for the lenses, never mind them being actually produced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 Another "funny thing" is how Kornelius's last name as it appears in the press release again is "Müller", not "Fleischer". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victor4 Posted September 29, 2004 Author Share Posted September 29, 2004 Never even noticed the 'Nikon' in the lens. Or Muller either for that matter. What I did notice is the press release wherein among other things it was stated that ..."Delivery is scheduled to begin in early 2005." I guess the reason I brought this up is that in January of this year Kornelius J. Fleischer stated that "At Zeiss, we currently work on an extremely impressive new lens for the Hasselblad 6 x 6 system. It will take us a while, so I do not promise it for this year's photokina." Thought perhaps the Sinar lense could shed some light on the subject, what with the alleged autofocus and all. Just hoping I guess. vic... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vijay_nebhrajani Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 After all the suspense, games, ha and hoopla, the "announcements" from Zeiss were disappointing to say the least. A 35mm rangefinder and lenses made by Cosina? So what's new there? A partnership with Sinar? Who cares - I suppose you could already mount the excellent Nikkors on the Sinar. Sport optics - binoculars? Again, who cares? What was so new and exciting that we had to wait breathlessly for, and that we could "never guess"? For all the noise, one would have expected a series of fast MF lenses for Hassy/Contax/Rollei/Alpa or maybe a new coating or something that had some technical merit. Yes, that is what is missing here. Technical merit. Welcome to the drain, Zeiss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas_diekwisch1 Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 I agree with Vijay. The advertisment gimmick is cool, but what's been offered so far is clearly disappointing. Did you guys see the 4/600mm APO on the poster though? Not clear for which camera system it is. I guess we are all expecting some new glass, something exciting. It's funny, Zeiss gets by with the same old stuff forever. I can't believed that they aren't ashamed of their Cosina polishing job. The Sinar looks like a sound concept though. Let's see where it goes. For decades I have been impressed with Rollei and their enormous creativity and innovativeness. It's too bad that they killed it themselves with their arrogant attitude toward their customers. It's really disappointing that their 6008AF hasn't received more acclaim or higher recognition. Their entire 6008 concept feels even today like a glimpse of the future. Hope they continue. They could be market leaders, if they'd change their attitude. Schneider used to be less innovative until 30 years ago, but they have really shaped up, at least IMHO. I really think they are cool, and they have my respect. I just really love their medium format line for the 6008, and their large format portfolio is just stellar. I guess Rodenstock keeps a lower profile, but their lenses are really neat and their quality control is second to none. And they don't make a big deal out of nothing. The other group from that spot on the planet that really impressed me is the ALPA. They are really so innovative and have a great sense for quality. They are expensive, very expensive, but considering their commitment to quality not overly so. Anyway, just mumbling, some thoughts about where the Europeans are going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l_a_k_h_i_n_d_e_r Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 What is impressive about Zeiss is its Marketing engine! Some companies get it right -- unlike Rollei-- and I suppose Zeiss is trying to do their best in this tough market -- not necessarily technically of course! Example: To me the issue about Lens coating is a mute point today. But what amazes me is the kind of sparkle people have in their eyes discussing T* coatings etc. The Zeiss lens coating is actually in people's eye-balls/psyche and not so much on their lenses ;-) Now that is a nice case-study for Business schools. To Q.G : AFAIK, Kornelius changed his last name after marriage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l_a_k_h_i_n_d_e_r Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 oops mute: I meant moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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