paul_chan4 Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 On the *bay site. Wondering how much it would fetch at end of auction. <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=67380&item=3853845079&rd=1" target="_blank">Click here</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c_d5 Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 How much would you have to pay for taxes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolaresLarrave Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 I wonder if the lens is included... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awahlster Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 WOW I think I would need about a dozen more high quality photo's and at least a full page of details about this camera before I bid. That opening bid is more like a down payment on a house then a camera purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_ng Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 doesnt look as nice as I thought it would.... At the end? 20000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan flanders Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Looks like the one I drowned in the Gulkana River in Alaska. Leica couldnt repair it so they offered me 25 bucks for spare parts. Hope this isnt it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl_keung Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 with plenty of black paint MP out there, why bother with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_ng Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 WOW reserve not met! you know what that means! this guy wants to sell it for 30Gs or more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capocheny Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Paul, Minimum? $20,000 - Maximum? Who knows? The market price will dictate this. Regardless, I wouldn't even think of paying the minimum but, obviously, there's one person who would. All I can say is, "All the more power to him/her." Cheers PS: Perhaps, I'm missing something here. Can anyone explain why this camera would be commanding such a high price? This isn't said to be facetious... I'm just curious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_werner1 Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 >obviously, there's one person who would (pay the minimum of 20,000). Not necessarily, it could be a friend of the seller. Since his offer is below the reserve, he will never have to pay the $20,000, and it makes the offer look more attractive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_woo3 Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 I remember a Chrome original MP was traded at around US$ 9,000 a year ago through the auction site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_morgan1 Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Guess none of you knows the Leica collectors' world. If everything is original, including the Leicavit and the lens, it will command a price of USD45,000 to $50,000. This is the market price today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_morgan1 Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 And in case you are still dazzled or wondering, a Leica prototype "pre" M3 is worth about US$145,000 or there about. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owen w. Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Someone should contact that charming older gentleman who retired from this forum about 2 years ago due to failing eye sight. He told a lovely story of getting his camera as a present from his family in the 50's, complete with the funny "winder thingy". He only learned of it's relative rarity shortly before he retired. I think I remember he had a kid that was eager to sell it off. I hope he either still has it -- or that his retirement is a LOT more comfortable. Can anyone find that thread with his story. It's worth a revisit. Cheers, Owen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul t Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 "Guess none of you knows the Leica collectors' world. If everything is original, including the Leicavit and the lens, it will command a price of USD45,000 to $50,000."<p> THat may be so. But paying half that amount on the basis of a few fuzzy photos may not represent a bargain. I'm amazed a seller expects to get that much money when they're too tight even to pay for supersized photos so a buyer can see what they're getting, or to provide any details. <p>Still, I suppose at that price, any prospective buyer can jet over and pick it up in person - and if it's tat, one neg on your feedback iasn't too serious compared with wasting $30K! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_white2 Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Interesting that the shipping cannot be insured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 I remember drooling over used MP in a camera store window in New York back in 1963. It had a Summicron lens on it, showed a bit of brassing, and had a price tag of $600.00. I decided to stay with my III-C body, going for about $36.50 back then, with the used chrome $39.50 50/1.8 Canon lens. I was poor back then and $600 would buy a lot of smoke at $15.00 an ounce. And those were ADVERTISED prices. In person you could often negotiate a better price. I should point out that this was in the early days of the "SLR Revolution" and Leicas, Canons, Contaxes and Nikons weren't selling worth a hoot. Contax ceased production followed by the Nikon S3 and SP, and new screw mount LTM lenses were being remaindered by Altman's in Chicago and Wall Street Camera in New York for a fraction of list price. Even $5.00 list price Leitz screw to bayonet adapters could be had for a buck each second hand. Same price for Leica cassettes including the can. Is history repeating itself? Are we bitching about "high" prices of used stuff when we should really be taking advantage of the "low" prices brought on by the "Digital Revolution"? As recently as 20 years ago you could buy LTM Leicas and Canons at prices that probably made them a better investment than many tech stocks. You certainly wouldn't have LOST money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben z Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 Al, I bet if Altman's and Wall St. had hung on to all their NOS Leicas instead of closing them out, both stores might have been able to bail themselves out of going out of business later on :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_chan4 Posted November 18, 2004 Author Share Posted November 18, 2004 I have had lost hard-earned money on equities and stocks. And consider myself a fool many times over. But even losing out finacially in buying, using and selling Leicas over the years, I'm just as cheerful as the day when I owned my first M3 in the 60's. How's that for good economics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsr Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 I'd like to help put things in perspective by noting that some collectors pay similarly high prices for Baseball cards and rare currency bills, which are only pieces of paper and mustn't even be fondled! If one must pay huge piles of cash for old stuff, I'd rather have a Leica than a Baseball card any day. Best regards, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommy_baker Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 You should be a salesman Bill ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_ng Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 If I were to spend 50Gs on some merchandise, I dont think I would ship by ANY courier. Probably fly there myself to pick it up. Would you trust UPS to deliver a 50000 item to you for 9.95? Yeah i thought so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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