casey_basichis Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 Hi, I know this is a pretty basic question, but what legnth range zoom lens would you all suggest to achieve angles similar to Gregory Crewdsons photos and the photos here http://www.leebalzano.com/portrait_index.html? I am very fond of the cinematic effect that they achieve and am looking for a new lens for my digital rebel. I am just getting started in photography and would appreciate any help. Also the lenses i was looking at were Tamrons, it seems that they have a student dicount the brings most of lenses down to around $300-$400 any one have an suggestions for a particualr lens? Thanks, Casey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_evans4 Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 <p>I gave up the attempt to look at the website whose URL you give: it's nightmarishly slow. The web designer even uses images for text, e.g. <a href="http://www.leebalzano.com/levittown/text_body.gif">this blurb about Levittown</a> -- what an idiot. The minuscule thumbnails do suggest that the lenses are pretty wide, though. What lens do you already have? If it's fairly wide, stop worrying and use it. If it isn't, get something appreciably wider. In general, spend your time using what you already have rather than worrying about and saving up for more clutter to carry around with you.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacsa Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 The images have an angle of view that would correspond to something like 15mm on a 35mm format lens. That's extremely wide. You will have a hard time to get that angle with the digital rebel's 1.5x cropping factor - you'd need a lens of 10mm focal length. A 15-17mm lens costs already alot, with rare exceptions (like I could suggest tokina 17mm f/3.5 AT-X); however, there are not too many rectiliniar (non-fisheye) 10 mm lenses for canon af..... You could do with a wide angle converter type lens that you mount in the filter ring of a wide angle lens... that should be cheaper, but the quality won't be too good - however, on the website the images can't be judged if they are good quality or not, (i'm talking about physical quality, i.e. sharpness, distortion etc) since they are sooo small... So, dunno if it helps what i wrote... good luck anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Crewdson uses an 8x10 view camera, probably with a 150 or 165mm lens. The "cinematic effects" you refer to are created by his design of the lighting, not his lens choice. From what I've seen of the way he works it is very akin to movie making -- lots of lights & modifiers, props, & assistants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not_given Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 The cinematic effect you refer to is a lighting technique known as painting with light. It's not difficult to do. Do a search for "painting with light" to learn how it's done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casey_basichis Posted August 26, 2004 Author Share Posted August 26, 2004 So what do a 150mm or a 165mm lens on an 8X10 translate to in 35mm? I know the tool doesn't make the photographer, but i spent a fair amount of money on the camera and i want to make sure that it has a decent lens or two. My two main interests are the cinematic styled staged photography and portraits. I suppose these are two completely different things. So the question is what should i get? From what i understand you need a fast aperature lens for portraits. What do you all think of the Tamron SP AF28-105mm F/2.8 LD Aspherical (IF)? Would the SP AF24-135mm F/3.5 -5.6 AD Aspherical (IF) of the SP AF28-75mm F/2.8 XR Di LD Aspherical (IF) Macro suffice instead? Is tamron any good at the SP level (The reason why i ask is they seem to have a really nice student discount)? As for the wide angle stuff I might wait for the Canon EF-S 10-22 is this a wise choise? Thanks again, Casey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casey_basichis Posted August 26, 2004 Author Share Posted August 26, 2004 Sorry, one other question. In regards to the painting with light, i looked around on google. Do you mean the photoshop variety or where you actually shine a flashlight on the desired areas on a long exposure. Looking at a few photoshop tutorials it seems like a pretty powerful technique and i can see right away where this would be quite usefull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not_given Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 I mean where you actually shine a flashlight on the desired area(s) during a long exposure. Look here for a <a href="http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1306/is_12_64/ai_53460896%20">tutorial</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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