eddie y. Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 I recently read Ken Rockwell's glowing review of the Nikon D70. (http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d70.htm) He mentioned that the built-in flash is so good, you probably don't need to use an external flash unless you really need the far reach. I find this to be great and encouraging news if true (I've never used a camera - film or digital - in which I was satisfied with the built-in flash performance.) For people who are using the D70, would you agree with Ken's statement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 I love that it's there all the time, for that little bit of fill when wanted. Heck, it's even good for kitchen party pics. But for serious work, you obviously need the Sb-800, which is a jewel all in it self Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry_ Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 If, for some reason, you shoot horizontal *each and every frame* -- the built-in flash should be OK. My guess, indoors and near a wall, and in the vertical format -- some strange thing will happen to one side or the other. A shadow will flow from the subject, if you are shooting a person or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant_. Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 depends on what youre shooting....recycle times sux on it....if thats important to you, a battery pack with an external flash is essential.....not to mention how much batt power the popup sucks up too....its ok for general use with shorter lenses, try it with a zoom and a lens shade and see some nice shadows you get.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_beauvais Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 The first thing I noticed is that nearly every lens I own casts a shadow into the flash output. The built in flash is not far enough off the body to get it out of the way of many lens barrels. Use the built in flash only with a physically small lenses without a lens hood. Or, block the built in flash's output with your hand several inches in front of it. Allow it to trigger a remote SB-800 in wireless iTTL mode. Otherwise, keep it snapped down. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loreneidahl Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 No. Ken's site is scattered with his own version of reality. He even pokes fun at himself in hte opending pages. His site is a playground without rules. Yes their is information there, however you will have to weigh that informtion against reality and other sources. Eventually you begin to se that alot of his stuff kind of blows away in the wind. The flash on the D70 is just good enough for you to get frustrated and buy a real one. Its called marketing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vivek iyer Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 The pop-up has VERY limited range and use. UNTRUE statement. Get a SB-800 if you want a real flash. Vivek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 My experience is that the pop-up is the best pop-up I've used and does very, very well with outdoor fill-flash if you want to light up someone's eyes. The other side of it is that it is very weak in output - goes out maybe six feet - and really can't effectively illuminate a dark scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustys pics Posted September 21, 2004 Share Posted September 21, 2004 It's only OK. ken Rockwell's site is pretty good, but he does get a bit flip at times. If you only need occasional fill flash or indoor flash, the pop-up is adequate. The shadow cast by the 18-70mm lens when fully extended, even without a hood, has been mentioned and should be noted. If you're on a budget, I'd suggest going for the SB 600. If you do a lot of heavy duty strobe work, the SB 800 is probably worth the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric_ung2 Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 the built in flash is good. i think the perfect metering by nikon contributes alot. but you may miss the fun from using the wireless flash system if you don't buy the SB600/800 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorick Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 I'm not sure of the reason for the pre-flash; (at first i thought it was a red-eye reduction thing but if so, it doesn't work). My big problem with it is that it makes some people blink just as the photo is taken. I have a set of 6 photos where the same person blinked every single time, in a group shot. Makes life very difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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