bret_williams Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 I would like to take my M with me on runs to take shots of the various flora and fauna. Looking for suggestions on how to carry it securely. Prefer not to carry it in my hand. Creative suggestions appreciated. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abufletcher Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 With the condition I've been in lately, I'm lucky to be able to walk with my camera! The late Galen Rowell was an advocate of (early morning) mountain jogging with a camera. He hung the camera on his neck and then had a neoprene chest strap (basically a piece of neoprene with a hole where the lens would be) that he could slip over the lens to keep it from flopping. He preferred this to a fanny pack as the camera was always readily at hand. Personally, I'd consider an SLR to be better suited to the task but to each his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capocheny Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 Bret, I use to take my M6 on fairly long runs (6-8 miles x 3/week) but decided not to do that anymore. Why? Because I run in the city and have had numerous run-ins with drivers that would rather talk on their cell phones than "drive and watch the road!" Consequently, I stopped carrying my M6 in favor of a Bessa. I decided it's much less painful to drop a Bessa than the M6. IMHO, the best way to carry the camera is in your hand with the strap wrapped around your wrist. At first, it's a challenge but as you do it more and more often you'll find yourself quickly getting use to carrying that extra weight. Of course, you can switch carrying hands. Having the camera hanging around your neck while running means you're going to have to hold on to it or strap it down anyway. Otherwise, the running motion is going to cause that camera to flip and flop all over the place. Not a pleasant thought! The majority of times when I'm shooting with it... I use hyperfocal distance focusing with a 35 mm. I plan on trying the same thing with my new 21 mm V/C lens. In your situation... since you're not doing street photography it would be easy enough to carry the camera and any additional lenses in a fanny pack. The major drawback is that you'd have to stop and pull the camera out before you're able to shoot with it, which isn't a problem in your case. In mine... it was just too impractical. So, now I carry one lens and a couple of rolls of film in a waist pack. Hope this helps! Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivier_reichenbach Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 Have you tried a little tighter strap, then around the neck, over one shoulder and on your back. Seems to me this should work. I say "seems" because I haven't tried it myself. The only serious exercise I do is fast walk on a tread mill at home in a disused room and, frankly, there isn't much to photograph there besides the vacuum cleaner and the house across through the window, so I never take my M along. Only my DVD player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack_lo_..._t_o Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 But the lens is too slow to keep up. If I had a Noctilux...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christopher. Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 As an avid runner, I think you would be far better served to run to run and shoot to shoot. Combining the two is a compromise in which neither will turn out very well. (at least for me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglas k. Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 I agree with Chris. Running with a camera sounds particularly clumsy and annoying. And given all of the reliability problems people here report with M cameras, it would probably end up broken -- either when you dropped it, or you slipped, or just from all of the bouncing around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max_fun Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 If you're stuck to using 1 lens with your M6, why don't you consider getting a CM/T3 for the purpose? I hate running with added stuff around me, but something small like the T3 would probably go unnoticed around the waist or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin m. Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 "And given all of the reliability problems people here report with M cameras..." My biggest 'reliability' problem with my M is keeping thumbprints off the viewfinder window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary_brown2 Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 Bret I've run numerous times with my M6, using a fannie pack (there are numerous types) and wrapping the camera in a large washcloth and often a plastic bag (I live in washington state). I've found it to be no problem and have gotton shots of subjects, including my running buddies that were appreciated!! Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abufletcher Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 Here are some examples of what a talented photographer can do mixing running and photography: http://www.mountainlight.com/gallery.easternsierra/gallery1.html As I said, Galen used a simple chest strap to keep the camera in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abufletcher Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 Here's something like what Galen used.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattalofs Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 I used to run with an N80 and one lens in a variety of fanny packs, but it just bounced too much no matter how tightly things were strapped down. The idea of carrying it in your hand with wrist strap sounds good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patricks Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 why not use the run to recon places you want to photograph and then return there to do it the right way? let's face it, we men only should concentrate on doing one thing at the time :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTC Photography Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 When I am jogging, I carry only a 2 oz Minox EC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abufletcher Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 Believe it or not, there are time I carry no camera at all -- and don't even think about photography. It's like a variation on Winogrand: "When I don't have a camera there ARE no photographs." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brambor Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 I think Lutz should come out wit a Leica Bra in addition to his Sling, Shade etc...Some kind of Leizzier is in order.;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles_stobbs3 Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 The wrist strap method would leave a lot of (salty) sweat on the camera. In my case, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_r._fulton_jr. Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 I use to do it with an M4 and a 21f4 SA. It worked okay. I held it in my hand and wrapped the strap around my wrist, as suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsr Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 I used to have a harness that was designed for just such a purpose. I believe it was called the "Gypsy Sling" or something similar. Used with a camera or binocular, it held your precious cargo close to the body and restrained it from flopping. I presently use a nice, compact, well padded, ballistic nylon bag made by "M Rock". It has a harness arrangement that allows many options. it can be worn close to the chest, on the back, on the hip or over the shoulder. It's less than $30 well built and does the job. Just the same, I don't think all that jouncing can do a camera much good over the long run! Best wishes, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bret_williams Posted January 23, 2005 Author Share Posted January 23, 2005 Thank you all for your helpful comments and suggestions. Also, thanks Donald for the link to those beautiful photos by Galen Howell. He's got quite a running route. I think I will try the fanny pack and see how it works for a while, at least until there is a Lutz harness. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bret_williams Posted January 24, 2005 Author Share Posted January 24, 2005 What position did you play? Were you the guy who wears the thingys over his ears and puts his head between the butts of the other players during the scrum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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