edward_watts Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 Just printed both colour and b&w prints on my Epson 2100. Even though colour prints were not ideal, b&w prints on Archival Matte were impressive (may have to send colour prints out to some lab). The problem I have is that I noticed severe banding on dark, hig contrast b&w prints. In prints with lots of mid tones, there are no bandings at all and details appear very well. When printing night shots with sharp contrats created by city lights, there's banding. Can someone help me out and solve this problem? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandro1 Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 I never had such problems with the 2100. Trivial suggestions: run a couple of head cleaning (just keep the ink button pressed a few seconds untill the cleaning process begins), verify the print quality settings ... Why are the color prints "not ideal"? Sandro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdumais Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 What settings? Is high speed off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edward_watts Posted January 29, 2004 Author Share Posted January 29, 2004 I tried the cleaning process a few times. The thing is that it does not happen in low contrast pitures. The print in point has very darkd (night shot) with high contrat lights, which is where the banding happens. By the way, I have set it in quality the print, not high speed. DO you think the profile of the document has anything to do with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaginator Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 Go to Printer Properties and look for Advanced. That's where you turn off High Speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markskelly Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 I operate an Epson 9600 (basically the same printer technology as your 2100). I'm using a Best RIP system, and I'm assuming you're using the Epson RIP. What I found on my printer was a great deal of banding on prints made at 720dpi and minimal or no banding at 1440dpi. It usually showed, as you have said, in the darker areas of the prints. From what I've been able to piece together from a lot of research on the subject, it seems to have to do have to do with the total ink limit and the drying time inbetween passes of the inkjet nozzles. Basically speaking, the dark tones of an image are putting too much ink on the paper for it to respond correctly before another pass of the heads. There is, on my system, two places to adjust the total ink limit. One would be the RIP itself. Perhaps your RIP has this capability. The other would be to open the printer profile in a profile editing program and to place the limit there. Using a combination of the two, I've been able to tame my 9600. It wasn't easy. It's an Achille's heel of the Epson's that I'm surprised isn't discussed more often. There is one more option as well. I've been told that there are codes that can be entered by Epson techs into these printers that will increase the interval of time inbetween passes of the heads. I haven't tried this simply because it would take forever to make a print which isn't an option in my business. So, in short: Try printing at a higher resolution, try limiting the total ink in varying degrees, consider tweaking or recreating your printer profile, or possibly ask your local tech for the secret timing codes (if they exist, I only read this). Hope this helps, Mark P.S. If you find a solution or some enlightening info, please keep in touch. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_kay Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 We solved the banding effect on the Epson 3000 by using the Utility\re-alignment tool. This has a better effect at cleaning up heads than just Head Cleaning. Epson added a Super Button in the advanced setting later on after launching this printer. Watch out for Mis-Aligned pins e.g -----_----- when printing a test in nozzle check. This appeared in a refurbished 3000 we bought and shows up in B&W as prints printed @720 dpi. As to over ink usage in solid black areas. You can solve this by adjusting the input levels +5 - +10 in LEVELS\ Photo Shop. This compresses the broad band of tone and reduces the solid black to greyer values thus reducing the ink output. Hope this can help some way! Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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