grant_. Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 you get 'rabble rousing anti Viet Nam war activist' from this photo...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claudia__ Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 grant, i am guessing you a)weren't born or b)too young to realize there actually was an intellectual content to this movement. that is what i like about al's photo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhooru Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Well, without knowing who it is, its a cool shot of a guy with a fro. Its also one of the best of Hoffman I've seen. I like it better than the with the gun and the bird, too silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray . Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Al, I really enjoy having you on the forum and I'm looking forward to seeing many more of your photos. Any of us who post photos here should expect criticism of whatever opinion. Personally I think this is a pretty nice portrait, although the background isn't ideal. The crop certainly looks better to me. Of course it's of historical interest, and the fact that you did it 'on the job' is to be respected.<p> <i>[edited by moderator]</i> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_shively Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Al, I like your shot better than Avedon's. His is too stereotypical of the whole Yippie movement. It's what you expect from Abbie--it's predictable. You picture offers another side of the wild man. Good show. Do you still have that belt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dford Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Nice shot of Abbie. I stole 'steal this book' and wrote a review for our high school newspaper. Still waiting to see the Dylan pics. How about Zappa? Will you be selling prints? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis1 Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 post more AL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_. Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Al, this is a great shot of Abbie. I never got that far to steal his "steal this book" but I hand copied it when I was a poor student who just landed in this country some 16 years ago and was going around chasing the rainbow gatherings - should that count for some credit? I think your original print is still the best. The background looks fine to me. Just post more please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeeter Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 <<but seems to be 'more' simply bc its a 'celeb'....chill out...>> of course it is "more" because it's abbie hoffman. just like the joplin photo. you think if janis was only a neighbor of al's from the 60's that he would be selling prints? what you fail to see in your holier-than-thou approach to every post is that it isn't always only "about the picture". hoffman is an historical figure, and the fact that al has photos of him, even if they don't meet with the Almighty Grant's critical approval (when do any, except your own, grant) make these of interest. grant, you are the one that needs to chill out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografz Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Nice shot Al... as is. To bad people have to inflict their god almighty opinion on a documentary shot by comparing it to a contrived studio portrait ... that arguably wouldn't get a second look if not of a historical person, compounded by the fact it was shot by a famous photographer. Then there are others who even compulsively alter a documentary shot to fit their personal POV, and in the process eradicate the context chosen by the person who actually shot the photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearhead Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Marc - Is everyone supposed to like it because it's by someone here? Is everyone's idea of a good portrait of someone supposed to be the same? In this case, I think the black blob of a shadow is terrible, destroying what would otherwise be a good portrait. We would never accept this of Avedon, should we just say it's great because it's done by someone here? Music and Portraits Blog: Life in Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmo Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 "America" w/ Tom Waitts = way too cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografz Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Jeff, should we say it's bad because someone else took a photo that a person HERE says is better? There's always someone better. But I doubt people like to constantly hear that no matter what you show here, someone else did it better. It's just human nature. IMO, there are a thousand photographers better than you and Grant combined. I like both of your works. But I could say it's been done before, and a lot better to every photo you or Grant have ever posted here... and mean every word of it. And you certainly could do that to anything I've ever shot and then some. In the end we just disagree on how to enjoy the works of others.. or just let it go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donald_macklin Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 I agree with what Quiche said re: 'intellectual component' to the Yippie movement.Grant ,if you weren't there,you don't know.The mainstream media gatekeepers are notorious for obfuscation and revisionism of the historical facts.Outstanding photo,Mr.Al,thanks for posting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Doug Ford or anybody else wanting to purchase a print, yes I do sell them. I've been printing on double weight 11x14 Ilford Multigrade with wide white borders, the image being 8"x12" or 9"x12" if I do a slight crop. A signed print including shipping in the U.S. is $200. Contact me at preacherpop42 (at) aol (dot) com. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Lee, the belt leather is all dried out and cracked but I still have it with the buckle. I'm waiting for it to come back in style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray . Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 We've all posted work that's less than perfect. Some people said they like this and some don't, what's the big deal? If no criticism is allowed let's refrain from high praise then too. Hell, Al's been around long enough, he should take it all in stride. Looks like he is....$200! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob F. Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 I don't see anybody wearing a "Grant" tee-shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Tell you what! If somebody buys an Abbie Hoffman print I'll pay photo.net for Grant to get one of those nifty patron icons next to his name. Then he can constantly be reminded of my crappy photograph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic_. Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Al, I am willing to contribute $5 towards a fund to buy Grant a signed Abbie Hoffman print. If 40 people (or one dentist or doctor) pony up, Grant can get an early Christmas gift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic_. Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Al, if it works, will you throw in a signed t-shirt for Grant too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Thanks, but I meant that if one person bought the print I'd pay for the icon. If Grant wants a print let him buy it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Sure, but would Grant want the shirt? Would he wear it? I'd love to see a photo of him here wearing the shirt...LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claudia__ Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 errr, al? didn't you admonish me for something earlier? it was edited out by the moderator. that's ok, it must be "happy hour" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Claudia, yup I did! Email me at preacherpop42(at)aol(dot)com please.I have trouble getting email addresses with this new system here. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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