igord Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 Hi, I just send a photo of a new girl I did last Friday (EPP, 67) Igor<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igord Posted February 2, 2004 Author Share Posted February 2, 2004 Ooops, bit large - sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_de_fehr Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 Hans has obviously never seen a real heroin addict, and should refrain from commenting on subjects about which he clearly knows nothing. Igor, the composition feels a bit awkward to me, like there's too much space behind your model, and her expression is a little vacant. Is that intentional? Very pretty girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougmiles Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 I like the combination of black outfit and dark grey background; makes the skin tones stand out. I'll echo the comment about the expression; "vacant" is a good term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fju Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 i like the color combinations as well. i don't like the look of her left hand though. it looks like she doesn't have any fingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter_strong3 Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 I'd say the hands look really awkward, the makeup needs some work, and the dark dress and dark background do nothing for me. As for the vacant look, the photographer should interact with the modle to the degree that she can show some kind of expression, unless, of course, he got precisely what he wanted. For my money this is a modestly successful image. As he gets more experience shooting her I'd guess the images will show considerable improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearhead Posted February 2, 2004 Share Posted February 2, 2004 Here's Igor's photo, inline.<div></div> Music and Portraits Blog: Life in Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igord Posted February 3, 2004 Author Share Posted February 3, 2004 What is wrong with makeup? I send the photo without makeup then. Dark on dark is what I like, lot of paintings done this way. Bright background would kill the mood.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tina_looney Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 Try not having her blusher come so low on her face. Blusher should be on the apple of the cheeks and not lower than the bottom of the nose. That will make a huge difference in her look. You can put a darker shade under the apple of the cheek to give a hollow look on her cheeks too if you like but don't bring the color all the way down to the mouth. Eyeshadow, the dark colors are really the rage right now. She might want to blend just a little more to soften it a bit. Lipstick color choice, perfect for the look IMO. Very pretty girl. Just remind her to allow her makeup to enhance her not define her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 Igor, I hope you didn't mind me playing... Where's the pearl shot? Did you post it and I missed it?<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igord Posted February 3, 2004 Author Share Posted February 3, 2004 Eric, I don't mind, hehe I have such a shot on a slide as well... and few more with other clothes. In the prevoius shot I like the waist... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igord Posted February 3, 2004 Author Share Posted February 3, 2004 Tina, what do you think about this one? This is from the same day shooting.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerrySiegel Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 Photo No 3 looks interesting. I would have cropped more off the torso, but I like it and I like her too. Thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yance_marti Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 Photo3 looks better than the first one but truthfully I would have to agree somewhat with Hans on at least the expression and pose of the model. I would like to see other pics from the shoot, I can't believe that those are the ones that do best justice to the model. Seriously, most women think their rear looks big without justification but you have given justification with the first pic. The lighting and background are well combined with the dress but I think a better pose to give the same feeling could have been accomplished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igord Posted February 3, 2004 Author Share Posted February 3, 2004 Hehe, this girl is the thinest I have ever seen, the skirt is made of few coverings... None of my models seem to have problems with it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans_beckert Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 Get someone to make her up who knows how to apply the proper kind of make-up for photography. Her make-up is unacceptable and gives her an extremely poor impression... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_de_fehr Posted February 3, 2004 Share Posted February 3, 2004 I like the "no makeup" shot the best of the three. I think it's a little more intimate and honest, and allows her natural beauty and innocence to show through. I photograph my daughters' friends, who are about this girls age, and I like to emphasise this very pivotal point in their development without downplaying their childishness. They will be women soon enough, and from then on, but at this point there is still a kind of carefree innocence that rarely survives adulthood.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans_beckert Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 Igor: She looks MUCH nicer in the third photo. It is hard to believe this is the same person...and my comments regarding that vacant 'look' have been deleted. I have also been scolded by the moderator. But I repeat that the original image is very unflattering.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twmeyer Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 I agree that the makeup is not good. It's not good enough to be acceptible and not bad enough to be good, either, if you know what I mean. <p>I like the dark dress against the slightly lighter background. <p>I don't understand how the picture of Morgan relates to this thread...except that it's a photo of a young girl, which makes it an obtuse reference... t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_de_fehr Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 Tom, sometimes text accompanies the photographs posted, and if one reads the text, all manner of information can potentially come to light. Since this post is addressed to you, maybe you'll read this one, so I'll try to clear up your confusion. Igor posted three pictures of a young girl, one of which featured the girl without makeup, wardrobe or posing. I commented that I liked that picture the best of the three, gave my reasoning, and included an example of my own for reference. If that is too obtuse for you to follow, maybe you should stick to the W/NW threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igord Posted February 4, 2004 Author Share Posted February 4, 2004 Thanks all for your effort to comment my stuff. The model was the first time in front of the camera. Today she has the second session with the other photographer (lot older and better then I) to built up her book, actually I even went to the session for a moment. See you with the next girl from my studio (I am booked for 26 years old model...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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