andrew n.bra hrefhttp Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 This was mentioned on the LUG a few hours ago - Leica have just posted the 2004 Barnack prize winner on their www site at:<p> <a href="http://www.leica-camera.com/kultur/events/wettbewerbe/obp/index_e.html">leica-camera.com/kultur/events/wettbewerbe/obp/index_e.html</a><p> Stand-Up-Straight Grannie-Cam Posing. Our doctrinaire BFA buddies <em>will</em> be pleased :?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_. Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 Can someone enlighten me on these winning photos please? To my eyes, they look horrible. What do you see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james mitchell dc Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 Maybe no one else entered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_lee2 Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 They're certainly not bad pix but they're not earth-shattering by any means either. If anything I agree with Nemeth on this one (!) in that they're trendy, fairly standard-issue, art school/PDN cookie-cutter stuff. Todd Gross (www.quarlo.com) has mined the same territory and produced far more interesting results, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_lee2 Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 Incidentally, <a href="http://www.leica-camera.com/imperia/md/images/kultur/obp2004/12.jpg" >these</a> Williamsburg hipsters look like they could have produced the very fotos that we're looking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_brewton Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 I agree with Wentong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant_. Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 awards dont mean shyt....never have, never will....has nothing to with what one does... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob haight Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 We all can be winners here. We just need to enter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Blackwell Images Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 C'mon, let's just face it; these are flat out cr*p! There's only one explanation for this... the people judging are NOT photographers! Instead, I'm sure they went to art school and learned how to be snooty artsy-fartsy "art" critics. “When you come to a fork in the road, take it ...” – Yogi Berra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant_. Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 everything is crap, nothing is crap... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom h. Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 "I do not place the Artist on a pedestal, as a little god.He is only the interpreter of the inexpressible." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_shively Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 "Granser's pictures do not just show city dwellers looking for amusement in their artificial environment. This close look at the amiable-morbid change of Coney Island is, from his point of view, also a portrait of the American way of life." Maybe I'm a bit dense--hell, I know I'm dense--but isn't this a narrow viewpoint. It's a portrait, poorly executed, of people doing their thing at Coney Island. Mostly standing in front of walls, posing. To give it some deeper meaning or significance or symbolism is posturing and affectation. I think the guy scammed the judges and they bought it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_r._fulton_jr. Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 I, for one (& I'm pretty sure I'm the <I>only</I> one), am glad to see them "push the envelope" with these images. They could have picked some nice calendar photographs which most follks would have thought were swell pictures. However, they didn't. Good for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_lee2 Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 The thing though, John, is that they're <i>not</i> really pushing the envelope. This style of photography is actually much more common than you'd think---and is especially saturated in New York in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WM Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 Ow...ow....ouch ! My eyes ! It is painful to see those pictures in the Leica website ! OK, I am not a good shooter, but those pictures ? Pthooi ! Go on Al, show them what REAL shooting is all about !<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grant_. Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 yea al, show us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 Al? You guys talking about me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_shively Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 Grant, your "24 hours" pix blow these things away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max_fun Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 I feel that it's more the concept of the series, than the actual photos in themselves. Many art pieces are not impressive in any form by themselves, but when placed or used in the artist's context, it becomes special in expressing some sort of idea. In this case, it seems that the value of the photos isn't so much about the people in the photos, but how he shot them: how he chose the slightly washed out hues, and the banality, to show the state of Coney Island now. Personally, I find the theme of decay and morbidity a little trite, but the more I look at the photos, the more intrigued I get by them. Also, don't forget that prints can look much more impressive than digital images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulr Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 Reminds me of the overexposed snapshots my dad used to take with his Braun Paxette. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr._kenny Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 they seem vaguely sarcastic/pessimistic -- emphasis on vaguely (if that's possible!)<br /> kind of poor-man's martin parr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_touchon Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 I just can't believe it. Next year, I will enter the contest and I shall easily win. I will dress a few people in outlandish clothes and have them strike silly poses in a dilapidated section of town. I will send in my super saturated color photos along with an essay explaining that my photos reflect the "Real America and Americans." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awahlster Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 WOW I really don't like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awahlster Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 WOW I really don't like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack paradise Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 "awards dont mean shyt....never have, never will...." Well the Barnack Award means $6000US. And I'll bet he gets an easier entry in galleries from now on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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