Kodachrome 200

[danpo]

I have just had a K200 film returned to me from the Kodak lab in

Switzerland (after I posted it to Wimbledon, UK) that I exposed at

500 not 200. They are slapping a £17 fee on top of the mailer price

for the change in processing...I am surprised - has this always been

the case? Does anyone know of any other labs that can process

Kodachrome in the UK? £17 seems an awful lot...

 

Cheers

[art_haykin]

I'm surprised they even offered to push it at all, knowing the extra time and work involved. YEARS ago, 3M used to charge 5 bucks a roll extra.

[panos_voudouris]

That is the only place they process Kodachrome in Europe and yes, they do charge £17 for push processing.

 

Try Provia 400F and E200. They have much finer grain and push processing will be £1 in most labs for these.

 

Panos

[zoran_crncevic]

I do not push-proces my slides but I know that dlab7 does that for certain films, and they charge 1 pound per slide.

I have been very happy with their service for regular E-6 process. I often order prints from my slides and theu are every time briliant.

I am also not a pro so your standards could be higher then mine.

 

http://www.dlab7.com/

 

I also order my films from their sister-company www.7dayshop.com

[gareth_harper]

As already stated that's the only lab in the Europe for Kodachrome.

Most labs charge per stop. 500asa is not simply one stop.

Anyway for 400asa Provia would be a better bet.

For slower speeds sensia 100 & 200 are nice and available at keen prices with Fuji mailers from 7dayshop.

 

Zoran, what's the turnaround from Dlab7 like these days. I used it a couple of years ago and it was just over two weeks. Any better these days?

[john_shriver]

Dwayne's push processing fee is $20, plus $8.50 for the base price on a 36 exposure roll. (I presume that they will push K200 in 35mm, the price is from the movie film section.) They're pretty much the only competition to Kodak for K-14.

 

So considering that you're probably paying a lot of VAT in your price, it's probably pretty comprable.

[rowland_mowrey]

Considering the difficulty of the Kodachrome process, I'm surprised that a push process is even available. This is a new one on me. After 32 years at EK, that is one I never heard of at all.

 

Hope they looked good.

 

Ron Mowrey

[danpo]

Thanks -

I do use Dlab now and again, but I don't think they process kodachrome as it is quite a specialised process. Their turn around is a bit on the slow side but cheap. I've used Sensia which is OK, but will give Astia a whirl. Not a fan of heavily saturated slides so will probably end up trying to find something comparable to Kr64 - if there is such a thing?

Ta

[danpo]

Whoops - K200 I mean. Although I expect they will stop making 64 at some point too...

[garethspics]

Dlab7 are still rather slow, but generally good quality. However I have noticed that their slide mounts do not hold the film as flat as those from Fuji.

[jason_fitzmaurice]

The closetes I've found is the Agfa series of slide films

 

RSX II 50, 100, 200

or the consumer versions

CT Precisa 100, 200

The most acurate rendition of colors available in E-6 (IMHO)

The grain of their 200 is obvious, but if you like k200 it should be no problem.

[discpad]

Ron,

 

If you look at the K-Lab operation manual, you'll see it can do push & pull processing.

[tomw]

I agree with the above post regarding the Agfa, both as to E-6 and C-41.

 

It's not as fine grained as some of the Fuji / Kodak offerings, but I find the overall color palette very pleasing.

 

Of course, this is subjective so you should try a roll or two for yourself and see how you like (take care with the Agfa C-41, most places default to Fuji / Kodak processing channels and the results aren't always correct for Agfa film, so make sure the place prints it correctly).

[thomas_dannhauser]

Unless they are using one of the new K-lab processors (probably not given the volumes), the processor is likely NOT a dip and dunk, but continuous web. To change the time of the first developer means that all orders requiring push need to be ganged together, the threading of the film web through the first developer bath changed, the "push" orders run throught the processor, and then the machine rethreaded to the standard configuration before "standard" processing resumed. The odd push of Kodachrome (1 and 2/3 stop) is partly dictated by what additional first developer times can be obtained by the new thread pathlength in the developer bath. As you can see, while the service is expensive, it is also labor intensive and cuts into the operating efficiency of the lab. Hope the photos were worth it.

[bobatkins]

The "standard" 1 1/3 stop push of Kodachrome comes from the fact that it's what you'd need if you accidentaly shot K25 at K64. It was intended as a life saver for pros shooting Kodachrome (in the OLD days...) who got their film speeds mixed up!

 

As far as I know, Kodak in Fair Lawn NJ USA still do a 1 1/3 stop push. They do charge extra but it was only a few dollars ($3?) a couple of years ago. Since I haven't shot Kodachrome in the last couple of years, I'm not 100% up to date with their current practices.

 

I always liked K200, but what with the price going up every time I bought it and the increased difficulty (and time delays) of getting it processed anywhere but in Fair Lawn, I finally gave up on it. I suspect that's what Kodak would like all Kodachrome shooters to do. I don't see it lasting a lot longer before they finally axe it.

[reuben_c]

Does Kodak still honor ESP-1 envelopes for Kodachrome?

 

Do they still let you enclose multiple envelopes per roll for multi-stop push?

[fuck]

I'm still shooting K200@500. My film goes to Fairlawn via Target, and they will still push it. Turnaround is one week. N processing is like $6 or something. The last roll of pushed K200 I sent in got mounted by accident, so they didn't charge me for it, and sent me a new roll of K200 and a voucher for processing besides.

[rowland_mowrey]

You learn something new every day.

 

Dan, I have never read those manuals. Kodachrome is just too much for me except as a technical 'curiosity' at this point. I have public domain formulas, but that is about it.

 

Tom, I know about the path length change, I have done it myself for other processes than Kodachrome. It is a messy time consuming task. I never liked doing it. I just didn't know that Kodacrhome was 'amenable' to push. In all the time I spent talking to those guys and being in their labs in KRL, no one ever mentioned a push process and I never needed one.

 

I'm just glad Dan was able to retrieve his slides.

 

Regards.

 

Ron Mowrey

[dan_sapper]

Hi everyone,

 

Sorry I'm chiming-in so late in the thread. Kodachrome push processing is done by raising the temperature of the first developer, which produces the silver image. There is no adjustment of the racks or processing time. It is usually done at the end of the day because in the old large K-14 machines, it takes a while to heat up the developer, and even longer to get it to cool back to normal temperature. Processors always have heaters, but I've never seen one with cooling capability, other than to let it sit idle (overnight)! I'm not sure what push-capability was built into the newer generation K-Lab processors; but they take much less developer, so it is probably an easier problem to heat & cool the developer as needed.

[danpo]

The original role of film in question was taken on holiday so I will be processing it (even if it is a bit pricey). I was wondering if other labs in the UK have the necessary chemicals etc. to do this? Does anyone know if non-kodak labs have the facilities - or is it just not worth their time and effort????

 

Ta.