old school Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 Hi All I finally found a source of circular 72mm and 77mm graduated ND filters in the UK. The supplier offers them in graduated 0.3ND (1 stop), 0.6ND (2 stops), 0.9ND (3 stops) or 1.2ND (4 stops). I need this filter for landscape photography where the sky is often significantly brighter than the scene below the horizon. The thing I can't work out is which of the above would (in most/average situations) be the most useful? I can only afford to buy one filter, and am guessing that either the 2 stop or 3 stop is most likely to fit most scenes where needed. I'm also guessing that going darker (i.e. 3 stops) is going to preserve more detail in the sky that can be lightened if necessary during printing (where the lighter ND filter might just loose that detail)? What are peoples experiences and which would you recommend? Many Thanks Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshall Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 Circular? Screw-in grads? Screw-in grads are next-to-useless unless you always want the dividing line between light and dark in the middle of the frame. I'd suggest looking for rectangular filters and a holder, which in turn would have something to screw in to the correct lens mount. That said, I use the 2 and 3 stop ND grads more than the others. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_moon2 Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 Mr Goff, that's a crock. I use nothing but screw-ins and have no problem cropping the print and no problem selling the result. If money is no object, I would recommend a 2 stop and a 4 stop - the latter to be used very judiciously, the former a lot more frequently. I pair up 2 2-stops so I can rotate them independently to get varied ND. With the Maxxum 7's rear-screed exposure map it's a cinch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_henderson Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 I use a screw in too with my Mamiya 7 and it's a 2 stop. Because of the very gentle graduation I'd say it was too light rather than too dark and a 3 stop would probably be just as good. The really important thing with screw-in grads is a really soft graduation as you can't alter where the grad point falls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_milner2 Posted June 23, 2004 Share Posted June 23, 2004 I'm not a grad filter user but if I was and I had the money I would go for the Lee slot filter system because of its flexibility and extendability. Apart from expense, the main problem is the bulk of stuff that would be hanging off the front of your camera but that's not usually a problem if you are shooting from a tripod. www.leefilters.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshall Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 Well, "a crock" might be strong, but so might have been "next to useless". How about, I find screw-in grads more limited, and feel that it is easier to compose and adjust with the flat grads and the Lee holder system. They slow you down in use a bit, but for a gain in flexibility. Better, perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_henderson Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 Well I use both but I have to say that with a SLR where I stand a chance of positioning it right, I prefer the flexibility of the rectangular systems- in my case Hi-Tech. But with a rangefinder, which I also use , things are different. I haven't found any practical way of positioning a sliding grad properly and acceptably quickly with a rf. In this case having a filter with a known point where the graduation starts and a very soft graduation is the only way I can get a photograph. And because the graduation is so soft it doesn't mean that you have to compose with the horizon in the centre either since there's no obvious "line" where the graduation starts. They last better than the resin filters too since they're glass and don't scratch so easily. But they are absolutely not as useful as a rectangular system for use with a SLR, particularly when you have very bright light close to the horizon. Of course we don't know here what kind of camera Stuart's going to use the grads with, so we don't know whether its his choice or necessity that we're commenting on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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