Versatile Systems & Various Sizes

Discussion in 'Medium Format' started by peter_todd|4, Jun 2, 2013.

  1. Hi, could you please tell me what systems there are that allow for both 6x6 and 6x4.5 or any other combination of sizes? I don't have a preference but would like the ability to use more than one size.
    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Hasselblad will do 6X6 and 6X4.5 and if you can find the backs they used to have a 35mm back. They also shoot super slides?
     
  3. Both Mamiya RB67 and RZ67 cameras have backs and masks to cover those sizes.
     
  4. The Fujifilm GF670 and GF670W (also distributed as Voigtländer Bessa III and Bessa III W respectively) can be switched (though not mid-roll) between 6x6 and 6x7.
    There are adapters for Rolleiflex T and Rolleicord TLRs for sixteen 4 x 5.5 cm frames on 120 film, and additionally for Rolleicord models, an adapter for twenty-four 28 x 40 mm frames on 120 film.
    The Mamiya 7 II has an adapter to allow the use of 135 film, to produce panoramic frames measuring 24 x 65 mm.
     
  5. The Linhof 6x9 system can have many image sizes and also has lens/film plane movements. 6x9 is a very adaptable format e.g. think of 6x9 as two side by side 6x4.5 images.
     
  6. Many of the old folders will let you do that w/ a simple film mask (usually missing) and a viewfinder that has an internal mask. What's even better about the folders is that you can shoot 6x9 as well as 6x4.5. These cameras are usually Voigtlanders. The Weltas have the 6x6 to 6x4.5 capability. There are surely others.
     
  7. I know this is probably not at all what you are wanting, but just in case you want to use a pinhole camera, the Zero Image 69 camera allows 6 x 4.5; 6 x 6; 6 x 7; 6 x9 by simply moving dividers inside the camera. Of course, that means the format cannot be changed mid roll. These are gorgeous cameras made of wood and are not hap hazard designs. They are high precision bodies and the picture quality is amazing for a pinhole camera. Here are some shots all done with this camera:
    http://www.lightanon.com/-/lightanon/gallery.asp?cat=161310
    The Zero Image site:
    http://www.zeroimage.com/web2003/EntryPage/entryFrameset.htm
     
  8. As steve says, lots of pre- and post-WWII folders from Germany (E & W) have masks, but none of these are otherwise "system" cameras. As also said, few of them still have the masks with them any more.
    However, many of them produce really excellent results, despite having fairly simple lens choices, as a rule.
     
  9. Also, the Bronica SQ series (SQ, SQA and SQAm) 6x6 cameras have 645 backs available.
    There are also 35mm backs for the SQ series - but not common.
     
  10. To round this off, perhaps a mention of the Sinar Zoom and Vario holders that allow 6x12, 6x9, 6x7, 6x6 and 6x4.5 formats on all 4x5" cameras (the first allowing changing format mid-roll, the second only in between rolls)?<br>;-)
     
  11. Some later models of the RB 67 'Pro-S' and all RB 67 'Pro SD' models can shoot 6X8 (with a special motorized back),
    and 6X7 or 645 backs.
    Yashica made a dual format TLR, the '635' that could shoot 120 or 35mm, (with a 35mm adapter).
    Ricohflex also made some dual format TLR'S; one that could shoot 120 and 35mm, and another that could shoot
    120 or 127 film, (again, with adapters/inserts for the smaller formats).
    Different models(?) of Mamiya press cameras could shoot 6X9, 6X7(?), 6X6, and I think 645.
    Also, I know this is a MF thread, but just about any larger size LF sheet-film camera can shoot smaller sizes of sheet-film,
    via reducing backs. There are also several different sizes of roll-film backs that can be used on sheet-film cameras;
    ie...6X24, 6X17, 6X12, 6X9, 6X7, 6X6, and if a person was so inclined...even 645.
    Marc
     
  12. Thanks for all your responses, they've been very helpful.
     
  13. The Mamiya Press/Universal rangefinder camera has to be one of the most flexible of all. It has specific 6x9 and 6x7 film backs; also multi-format backs for 6x9/6x6/645, which permit mid-roll format changes; and finally the Universal takes full-frame 95x76 mm Polaroids (full frame meaning no blacked-out area around a smaller image, as you get with nearly all other MF cameras that can shoot instant film backs).

    I also rigged up simple spool adapters to shoot 35mm rolls in the 6x9 rollfilm backs. That gives an 84x24 mm super-panoramic format (or taller if you don't mind using the perforated image around the 35mm film rebate sprocket holes!). The only catch is that you have to unwind the film in a dark room or changing bag.
    So that's 6 distinct formats in one camera.
     

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