rfdphoto Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 I am looking for a cheap but not too crappy tele converter for my EF and EFSlenses. It doesn't have to be L quality because my lenses are mostly kit lenses. I would just like something that will give me a little more range w/out havingto drop $500 on a new lens. Something under $100 would be great.the following links are ones i have seen around a bit but am just not sure about. <Ahref="http://cgi.ebay.com/2X-TELE-CONVERTER-FOR-CANON-EOS-AF-EF-CAMERA-ZOOM_W0QQitemZ300075797330QQihZ020QQcategoryZ106844QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem">DigitalOptics 2x teleconverter</A><BR><BR> <Ahref="http://www.sigma4less.com/sess/utn;jsessionid=1545be67aad2b1b/shopdata/0040_Lenses/0030_Teleconverters/product_details.shopscript?article=0290_Phoenix%2B2X%2BAF%2BTeleconverter%2Bfor%2BCanon%2BEOS%2B%3D28PH2X4CA%3D29">Phoenix2X AF teleconverter for Canon</A><BR><BR>Any suggestions? If someone has a used x1.6 or x2.0 tele converter they wouldconsider selling I would also be interested in that.I have an EOS 30D.Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobatkins Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Three bits of advice: (1) Stick with a 1.4x, you'll lose too much quality and speed with a 2x. (2) Get a Tamron or Sigma. (3) I don't think any of them will work with EF-S lenses. There's not enough room for the extended rear projection of EF-S lenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffs1 Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Most (all?) teleconverters are designed to be used with telephoto lenses, so the image-quality loss will be even more dramatic when they're paired with a shorter focal-length lens. For just over $100 you can get <a href="http://www.adorama.com/Refby.tpl?refby=rflAID062012&sku=SG70300DGEOS">Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6 from Adorama</a> (and I'm sure from all the other mainstream vendors like B&H, etc.). I've never tried a TC and kit lens, but I'm pretty confident that the Sigma will have much better image-quality. - GSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogernoel Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 FWIW, I have a Pro 300 Kenko 1.4 teleconverter. I have used it on my Digital Rebel with the Canon 70-300mm 4-5.6 USM IS. OC I should have been using a tripod as well, but here is a shot from several miles away. Took this from a balcony in Austria last September. I am doubtful that you will find this teleconverter for less than $160-200. Good Luck<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn nk Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Point 3. of Bob Atkin's comments is absolutely correct. I have the Tamron SP AF Tele-Converter, which is a 2X converter. It works with my 24 - 105L which is an EF lens. It will not work with my 17 - 55 EFS lens - as stated, the rear element mount projects farther back than it does from the 24/105. It simply will not mount to the outer end of the converter. This is also borne by the rear lens caps; the Canon ones are about 16 mm deep, the Tamron one is just under 12 mm deep. As for the other comments, I would concur; it is definitely not in the same league as either lens, and the AF which is stellar with both lens, really starts to hunt when the converter is used with the 24/105. If I had to do it over again, I might buy the 1.4X, but surely not the 2X. I had dreams of getting an effective 1.6 x 105 mm x 2.0 = 336 mm. What I got was something I will hardly ever use (if ever). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awindsor Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Incidentally you can probably mount an EFS lens on a Tamron or Sigma TC with the aid of a 12mm extension tube. Of course you will need Canon's fancy EF 12 II version which is a small fortune itself. I make no promises about optical quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jajurek Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Rodger Edgington wrote: "FWIW, I have a Pro 300 Kenko 1.4 teleconverter. I have used it on my Digital Rebel with the Canon 70-300mm 4-5.6 USM IS. OC I should have been using a tripod as well, but here is a shot from several miles away. Took this from a balcony in Austria last September. I am doubtful that you will find this teleconverter for less than $160-200. Good Luck" I have Kenko 1.4x Teleplus PRO 300 DG. Have bought it on eBay, have paid 125 USD (post from Hongkong to Poland), received it after 5 days. My greetings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lester_wareham Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 IMHO: IQ with TCs, at least the better ones, rests on the capability of the lens. If you have low quality kit lenses even a 1.4X is likely to be disapointing. Glenn Kolot: "...I have the Tamron SP AF Tele-Converter, which is a 2X converter. It works with my 24 - 105L which is an EF lens. " Glenn, how do you find the IQ, any 100% crops you could put up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yakim_peled1 Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 >> I am looking for a cheap but not too crappy tele converter for my EF and EFS lenses. It doesn't have to be L quality because my lenses are mostly kit lenses. I never had a cheap but not too crappy tele converter nor any kit lenses but I could guess that cropping the original picture will yield similar results - and at zero cost. YGWYPF, TANSTAAFL, BTBACOO and all the usual acronyms apply. BTW, which lenses do you have? Happy shooting, Yakim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogernoel Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Ray, another thought. I can't imagine much success with lenses shorter than 150mm with a tele converter. Just my opinion. As Bob Atkins suggested, you can buy a fairly cheap telephoto lens for the price of a decent tele converter. OC, you can move to Poland, and apparently save $40 to $75.00 on the Kenko Pro 300 1.4. Ha Ha. Good buy Jerzy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfdphoto Posted January 30, 2007 Author Share Posted January 30, 2007 I have the EF 28-90 f/4.0-5.6 that came with my Rebel T2, I have the EF 50mm 1.8 and I have the EFS 17-85mm IS USM that I got with my 30D. <BR> I also have the kit EFS 18-55mm that comes with the Rebel XT.<BR> I was hoping to couple the TC to the EF 28-90mm. With a 1.4x and the 30D frame ratio I was hoping to achieve 200mm. <BR>I will probably just save for a lens based on what I have heard here.<BR>I can't decide if I want to get the 100mm Macro or if I should go with something more along the 300mm range. Any opinions?<BR><BR> I tried to buy a <A href="http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3626640">Canon EF 75-300mm</A> one time at Wal-mart. It cost around $180 I believe. Of course I was shooting in horrible conditions (a dark church w/out a flash) but I was very disappointed with the resulting photos. I took it back and got my money back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxasst Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Under the same conditions, the telephoto lens you purchased from Walmart will give better results than a wide-short tele zoom lens with teleconverter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfdphoto Posted January 30, 2007 Author Share Posted January 30, 2007 What about a Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6 DG APO Macro Telephoto Zoom?Anyone use this? I'm very weary of buying something other than Canon lenses as I have heard people say that image quality is not near as nice as what you get with a Canon lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yakim_peled1 Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 <p> If your budget is <b>very</b> tight than the <a href="http://photonotes.org/articles/beginner-faq/lenses.html#compatibilitythirdparty">Sigma</a> 70-300 APO <b>II</b> or APO <b>DG</b> (the ones with the red stripe) are optically the best of all the <a href="http://www.photo.net/nature/x-300.html">x-300</a> cheap zooms. That said, its AF is very slow so the USM versions also have some advantage in other parameters.</p> <p> See <a href="http://emedia.leeward.hawaii.edu/frary/toolbox3.htm">http://emedia.leeward.hawaii.edu/frary/toolbox3.htm</a>, <a href="http://www.photo.net/nature/x-300.html">http://www.photo.net/nature/x-300.html</a> , <a href="http://www.photo.net/canon/70-200">http://www.photo.net/canon/70-200</a>, <a href="http://www.photozone.de/8Reviews/index.html">http://www.photozone.de/8Reviews/index.html</a>, <a href="http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/eosfaq/telefoto.htm">http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/eosfaq/telefoto.htm</a> and <a href="http://photonotes.org/articles/beginner-faq/lenses.html#telephotos">http://photonotes.org/articles/beginner-faq/lenses.html#telephotos</a>. </p> <p> Happy shooting , <br> Yakim. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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