six hours of rangefinder-style shooting in Seoul

Discussion in 'Leica and Rangefinders' started by mike dixon, Jan 15, 2005.

  1. Okay, so I wasn't using a rangefinder, but I don't think the "style" of the shots is significantly different than what I get shooting with my Leicas.
    I made a trip into Seoul to meet a friend I hadn't seen in about a month. She wanted to go see an exhibit of designer chairs at the Seoul Arts Center (which was fine with me--I like chairs). After that, we went over to Gangnam to find a place where I could buy more minutes for my cell phone and to have a cup of coffee. After she headed off to meet some friends, I walked around a bit photographing, had dinner, then took the bus back to the university where I work and live.
    All images were shot with a Canon digital Rebel and 28/f1.8. Don't remember all the specific shutter speeds and apertures (don't care enough to check the EXIF data), but the night stuff was mostly wide open. ISO setting ranged from 100 to 800.
    Here, in chronological order, is some of what I shot:
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    Say what you will . . .
     
  2. #s 1 and 3, keepers for sure
     
  3. EricM

    EricM Planet Eric

    #3 for me too! How are you adjsuting Mike? Running out of hard drive space yet? Burning lots of dvd's? Want more ram? Is your butt sore yet?
     
  4. Nice photos Mike, I was in Korea several time in the winter, It seemed colder than your photos show.How do the people react to your shooting street photos,more or less interested that here in the US?
     
  5. Wow, Mike. Not your usual style at all, but it's definitely up to your usual standards of
    quality. The only one I don't really like is #7. The cross is definitely an attention-grabber,
    but I think you were hypnotized by the potential & didn't do as fine a job on this one as on
    the others. In addition to #1 and #3 which are outstanding, I really like #2 (which has
    beautiful quiet colors and a peaceful composition) and #6. #5 is striking, but I haven't
    fallen in love with it yet.
     
  6. chik on the bench, chuck the rest.. :D
     
  7. Spearhead

    Spearhead Moderator

    I like the bench shot a lot.

    I'm wondering, however, what's up with the bench? If a sumo wrestler sat on the other end, wouldn't she be sticking out of a window somewhere?
     
  8. yeah, the bench shot is the one........nice. Think the rest have that "same camera position look" to them. The "jesus" one is close........would look cool closer and "tilted"...IMHO....and darker
     
  9. Thanks for the comments so far. Yes, if a sumo wrestler plopped down on the other end, it would launch her into the air.

    The weather was relatively mild yesterday--around freezing. It had been much colder earlier in the week. The temps in Seoul are usually a few degrees higher than surrounding areas because of all the heat generated in the city.

    I don't seem to get much of a reaction when photographing (well, not much more than I get for a being a six-foot-tall redhead in Asia), and when I do, it's usually people wanting to pose for me. Of course, one of the defining features of Seoul is the general indifference of the inhabitants to what's going on around them. You could spontaneously combust, and most people would keep walking by as if that was nothing out of the ordinary.

    My basic post-exposure process is to fine-tune color balance and maybe make minor exposure adjustments in Photoshop's RAW processor. Then, as needed, I adjust levels, curves, and color balance, and do any dodging, burning, or local levels/curves corrections. Finally, for web images, I downsize and apply a weak unsharp mask. Yes, my butt gets tired sitting in front of the computer. I enjoy moving around in the darkroom more, but I don't have a darkroom here. I do like having the ability to make custom prints without having my own darkroom. I've been storing images on an external hard drive (my laptop's drive would have been filled in a few weeks).
     
  10. clean and smooth digital images.
     
  11. Having lived in Seoul for several years quite some time ago, all of these images convey a lot of the feeling I had while there. Thanks for reminding me of past memories. I must say I like 5 and 9 the best. BTW, the girl in #5 looks too familiar..creepy. This thread provided me with lots of inspiration for my trip to Seoul this summer.
     
  12. Wishing you were using your M3/summilux/film combo instead for 7 & 6...because the equipment does matter. Cast out the digital devil, next thing you know you'll be using Fred Mirandas summilux plug in on your canon images. Is nothing sacred?
     
  13. #1 and #3 i like. Convert to B&W, add grain and I'll like it more.
     
  14. EricM

    EricM Planet Eric

    "Cast out the digital devil, next thing you know you'll..."

    ...the next thing you'll know is you wont know what he's contributing with.
     
  15. EricM

    EricM Planet Eric

    took a second, but that's funny.
     
  16. we all know what Mike's using. is there anyone here who doesn't recognize Dixon's m3/summilux combo, 72dpi and all. its obvious. but i keep forgetting that you're not supposed to see the difference between leica glass and brand X at 72dpi. "digital's calling to the imitation zone
    Forget it, brother, and go it alone.
    digital's calling upon the zombies of death
    quit holding out-and draw another breath" join the resistance. silver halide salts rule. PS - if Dixon starts to photograph car bumpers and flowers with his digital rebel, i'm out'a here.
     
  17. geeze doug i dont think we'll be able to go on without ya....
     
  18. there, there grant don't fret. i'm not going anywhere. here, pull on this.
     
  19. summicron hp5 filter
     
  20. silver halide salts rule​

    Like Ozymandias.
     
  21. I think the question is whether *Mike* like his clean and butter
    smooth images compared to film. Do you Mike? I would just
    HATE to switch back and forth from a M3 finder to a drebel finder
    image quality aside. How is one suppose to see/catch people's
    faces /expressions in that tiny light at the end of the tunnel
    especially in portraitures in which Mike excel?
     
  22. All great shots but I don't buy the style argument. You could easily have done all those with a Leica RF, or the Canon digital Rebel. It just shows that you can get great shots with a wide variety of equipment if you know what you're doing. With a few exceptions, most of the photos on this forum could have been done just as well with other equipment. The Leica is more of a choice. There are a few low light shots that might have been more difficult with an AF SLR, but other than that, to a large extent, the skill of the photographer is more important.
     
  23. EricM

    EricM Planet Eric

    I haven't read a style argument here. Where was someone mistaken otherwise? These look digital without a doubt so lets just stop it right now.

    All that phoney Beatlemania has bitten the dust...
     
  24. I find the bench shot interesting, but only because of the bench. I miss your wide opened model(shots) with black negative borders.
     
  25. Mike, I'm a big fan of yours but I do not like a single shot among these. The girl on the bench is the most attractive, but that's because of the well lit and arranged exhibit as part of a show, right?<p>When you are using your Leica and fast glass wide open it seems like you were making love to what is in front of your lens - these here by comparison appear to be just very detached and touristy snaps. Please excuse my frankness. Cheers.
     
  26. Vote Doug Ford in 2008"."
     
  27. Spearhead

    Spearhead Moderator

    I think Mike would know if he is getting a similar "style" with a different camera.

    Speaking from experience, it's very different to be shooting models in your own area, people you talk to and share life experiences (or at least cultural similarities) with than to shoot in another country as a foreigner. It's very different, and the results are very different. Suggesting this is camera-related is, well, it's photo.net I guess. Easier to complain than put on the thinking cap.
     
  28. Mike, start making friends with the Korean locals!;0
     
  29. Jeff, I totally agree with the potential circumstantial reasons you are giving for the styles to be different. Still, I believe focussing on the subjects (pun accepted) optically (including shallow DOF, creamy b....) as well as emotionally is Mike's forte and this, for me, holds true for his portraits as well as for his reportage and street work. While being a foreigner may make it harder for him in the latter regard, the equipment he has been using here may well have made it harder in the first. Hence my hypothesis.<p>BTW, when it comes to judging (which is what Mike has asked for), not complaining, I usually don't need a "thinking cap" but use my eyes and taste. ;-) Cheers.
     

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