justin_ng1 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Should I buy keep the filter or buy a useful one for my collapsible summicron? The filter currently on my cron came with a lens I bought a while ago. I don't like using uv filters, but I also want to keep the images as original as possible cuz adding colored filters would add more contrast. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Vongries Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 My collapsible Summicron 5cm dates from the early '50's on an M 3 from the same era that was my Dad's. It has rarely (if ever) been cleaned though filters have been cleaned regularly. The lens surface is perfect, even viewed with a loupe. It has an SL or UV on it all the time. This is a subject that generates strong opinions. You have mine, there will be others. Take your pick! Best of luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJG Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 If your front element is pristine, I would get a good quality brass mounted UV filter like a B&W and keep it on the lens. Older glass types and early coating won't take as much abuse as current lenses. On my current digital gear, I use lens hoods always, but don't bother with filters. So far, I haven't had a problem with cleaning my newer lenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Lazzari Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) The lens surface is perfect, even viewed with a loupe. It has an SL or UV on it all the time" Sandy V. If the original buyer took the advise of the camera store employee to also buy a protective filter, they were very fortunate. As stated above, you can share in that proactive good fortune by finding this original buyer's version 1 Summicron with a mint front element ! In my experience, attempting to rehab a 'cleaning abrasions' cursed front element (Polish & Re-coating), typically results in loss of critical and factory specification resolution. So prospective buyers should make a strong effort to seek out one of these preserved low-mileage gems. After-all like today, many considered Leicas to be the 'Rolls Royce' of cameras, back then this same 'Bling' was also being sold to "Doctors, Lawyers & Movie-stars"; these folks usually capitulated to camera salesman recommendations... Edited June 15, 2017 by Gus Lazzari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_elwing Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 The filter you have will tend to allow a period pop on lens cap to fall off. To me the only advantage of actually using a 1950s /60s Leitz filter is that it is lumpy enough to stop the Leitz metal lens cap falling off. It's a lens with soft coating and soft glass at the front. Any decent 39mm coated filter should serve to protect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_elwing Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Just to keep this thread alive, I might mention that I tend to agree with Gus. I, foolishly had my Summicron front surface polished maybe 30 years ago, on advice from my lens person, as the coating was embarrassingly damaged. While I couldn't bring myself to fit a UV filter, blame aesthetics & hubris, I have taken reasonable care since then. If I had a clean coated copy, I would, even then, have protected it. My second wife had used a pocket handkerchief to clean her Summarit 1.5, and I saw that as a worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_shriver Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Summar, Summitar, and collapsible Summicron all have exceptionally soft front elements made of flint (lead crystal) glass, and it is thus super-easy to scratch. Plus, the Leitz lens coatings of that period are exceptionally soft, and easily scratched and removed. You basically cannot apply ANY pressure to the front of these lenses when cleaning them, and have to use immaculately clean materials to clean them. It is incredibly easy to damage them. So these are lenses that absolutely cry out for using a UV filter at all times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christopher_a._junker1 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 I have a pristine early collapsible Summicron 50 for which I've always used a UV filter. I've had dirt, dust and beach sand and salt air land on the filter that I carefully cleaned off and I've never had to touch the front lens element. Using a high quality UV filter won't degrade the image and is well worth the cost.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_bellayr Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 On more than one occasion I have had people touch the front of my lens on which I had a filter. I cleaned the filter. That is one reason to always have a filter on the front of an expensive lens. I also find that the filter gets dirty and I need to clean it periodically. Best to clean a filter not the surface of a lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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