gerry_szarek Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Good evening, for those of you that use computers, spyware is a serious problem. Al can ignore this thread since he communicates using a smoke fire (I couldn't resist Al). Microsoft has a FREE spyware removal tool at www.microsoft.com go to the security section. Install it an run, it works pretty good, on newer machines it takes about 30 minutes or so to run, depending on the number of files to inspect. Gerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abufletcher Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Or you can switch to a Mac in which case spyware and pop-ups are hardly an issue at all! : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 do not use anything by micro soft! they put their own gawd dam spyware on your computer. the only program out there that doesn't is the adaware se 105 from www.lavasoftusa.com the other thing you can do is use mozilla firefox. i've had no spy ware or pop ups since surfing with it. get rid of explorer, they used to be the only game in town and didn't really give a crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Get a Mac - zero problems. www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markci Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Typical MS junkware. The install program locked up and hosed my machine badly enough to require a reboot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve g Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Yes, Mac..no problems, except the horrid interface, equal or worse stability to WinXP and significantly higher prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmijo Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 As much as I like the Mac, please recognize that the reason it doesn't have a spyware issue is that it makes up just a few percent of the market - not enough to entice hackers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike dixon Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 I use Netscape's browser, AdAware, and Spybot Search & Destroy--I get no popups, and the few bits of spyware I pick up are quickly eradicated. All those programs are free. I see no reason to replace them with a product from a company that has a long history of producing bug-ridden, non-secure software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 <I>...please recognize that the reason it doesn't have a spyware issue is that it makes up just a few percent of the market - not enough to entice hackers.</I><P> Of course and that's just fine with me. As far as stability issues mentioned, with OS X, 3 machines running almost 3 years with no reboots/crashes. And no virus and spyware issues as well. www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeeter Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 a second vote for ad-aware. it found a bunch of junk after i had run spy bot. it is free and also offers online updating, much like norton antivirus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Mike, Firefox is made by the brains from Netscape. It's an open source piece of software, small, and has many cool features. And no spyware has been getting through. I thought my adaware was corupte the first time. Give it a shot, you can always uninstal. I used to be all for Mac, but not being able to open the thing up and hop it up at will or upgrade just this just that, began to bug me. A properely built PC from scratch by someone in the know is my prefered route now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 My life is an open book anyway. So they know all the porn sites I visit? Big deal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__jon__ Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 >Stephen Gomes , jan 12, 2005; 09:31 p.m. >Yes, Mac..no problems, except the horrid interface, Bwaaaaaaahahahaha! Just mouse on down to the "START" button to turn Windoze off... >equal or worse stability to WinXP Please! Restrict your comments to something you ACTUALLY know about... >and significantly higher prices. Not when you have to add in all the things that the Mac already has. Downloaded your 6,000, 456th lack-of-security patch lately?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly_flanigan1 Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Run Mozilla Firefox and Adware finds 1/20 the crud; since it is not a condom with holes; like Microsoft Internet Explorer. If you go to some bad sites; the IE and all the patches still wont help you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivier_reichenbach Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Mac and PC. Leitz and Zeiss. Nikon and Canon. Fuji and Kodak. Tri-X and HP5+. Film and digital. Pepsi and Coke. The great rivalries in History. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
._._z Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 <i><blockquote> significantly higher prices </blockquote> </i><p> I'll second the suggestion that you post about what you know: <p> <u><A href = http://www.apple.com/macmini/>Macs starting at $499</a></u> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iwmac Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Bailey, This new Mac just was announced today, so the comment about cost was relevant. And stop being such a twat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
._._z Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Ian, that particular Mac model was actually announced yeterday. Moreover, anyone claiming "significantly" higher prices for equaivalently-configured Mac and high-end PC systems is just as ignorant today as they would have been a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vance_lester Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Hmmm is there anyone here that uses Linux (In any of it's flavors)? Go Penguin power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_b1 Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Stephen and Brett - The reason that current Macs are relatively immune to adware, spyware and virii is that the OS is a specialized version of the Berkeley Unix. It's damned difficult to penetrate a Unix enviornment at the root level unless you, as the administrator, have screwed up royally. Unfortunately, Microsoft's eagerness to populate the universe with their OS has left Windows users with holes big enough to drive through - - - and the hackers have been doing that. When security patch after patch after patch after patch after patch has been required to shore up an OS against invasion, one must simply reasom that the code was seriously flawed. The rationale for a Mac is its sophisticated OS, which has been developed as variant of the Unix open source system that has been in development by programmers, worldwide, for decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_evans4 Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 <p>Yup, I'm using Linux right now.</p><p>I have to say, however, that only a brave person would choose it for photography-related purposes. If I wanted a computer for that, I'd use either 'Doze <em>very well separated indeed from the internet</em> or more likely Mac OS X.</p><p>The missus has no interest whatever in computers, no inclination to even turn the front cover of any manual (least of all one that's computer related), probably hasn't even noticed that programs have "Help", but had no problems switching to Mac OS X when her previous 'Doze laptop crapped out.</p><p>As for Microsoft's spyware removal tool, the first thing I thought of when I heard of it was "What's in it for Microsoft?" As has been pointed out above, Lavasoft's Ad-Aware is free of charge and easy to use. Actually the Microsoft product doesn't sound bad, <a href="http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/08/196234&threshold=1&tid=172&tid=201&tid=218">even when discussed by people who are notably sceptical of the company's products</a>. But why bother to keep obediently marching on the scare/pay/upgrade Windows treadmill?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icuneko Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Al communicates using a smoke fire and visits porn sites ... Ohhhhhhhh Noooooooooooo!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhooru Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Hey Eric. I downloaded Firefox and am using it now. It's certainly faster on my computer than IE. If I like it, I'll probably try to dump IE, if Bill will let me. I remember I tried to remove it once from a version of my current 4th generation rebuild and it wouldn't allow it without f..king up windoze. However I will probably keep with outlook as it has a lot of stuff in it I use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael b Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 From AP, food for thought -- "Investors seemed unimpressed...the stock may have also taken a hit because of the Mac mini, the company's new, $499 computer. Profit per machine is likely to be lower on the bare-bones mini. Cross estimated the profit margin to be as high as 19 percent. More expensive Macs have profit margins of 25 percent or higher." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Well, Apple stock is up almost 12% today in after hours trading - due mostly to significantly exceeding earnings forcasts. www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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