prosper_glenn Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 <p>Hi everyone,<br> Basic D700 question. I want to shoot some scenes ONLY in black and white and I am prepared to throw out the colour information.<br> But I do NOT see how to do this in a direct way.... I DO SEE that i can use the retouch menu to turn any colour shot into b/w..but that is not what i want...too many steps.<br> <strong>I want to click the shutter and have the shot appear in B/W immediately.</strong><br> Can I do this? If so how?<br> Thanks in advance :)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arun_seetharam Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 <p>I am sorry....I am missing something here. Why would you want to do this? As a convenience? to be able to see B&W immediately on preview? or is there something else you might be trying to achieve?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prosper_glenn Posted March 4, 2010 Author Share Posted March 4, 2010 <p>Thanks Arun - YES, purely out of convenience. To see the B/w immediately on preview.<br> Can it be done? Thanks.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglas lee Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 <p>Set Picture control to monochrome. You cannot later convert it to color and you are stuck with sRGB, if that matters.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_in_PA Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 <p>You do know that you have lots of control in PS with the color mixer and such when you make an RGB image into grayscale and it will look a ton better, right?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rene11664880918 Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 <p>Go into your camera menu and look for PICTURE CONTROL. there is where you set the picture control mode to monochrome. Cheers!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_morris4 Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 <p>If you record raw, then setting Picture Control to monochrome will make a black & white preview JPG, so you'll see B&W immediately on the screen, but you'll still be able to get color when you process the raw image file. Maybe more importantly, you'll be able to change the color filtering and exposure in your B&W conversion when you do post processing, if that's useful for some of the pictures.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arun_seetharam Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 <p>Menu -> Shooting Menu -> Set Picture Control -> Monochrome<br> :-)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prosper_glenn Posted March 4, 2010 Author Share Posted March 4, 2010 <p>PERFECT! Thanks so much Douglas and Rene - great info John. Yup I know that peter.</p> <p>Thanks everyone. Now that i see the answer.....I actually knew how to do this 3 weeks ago, lol. But there's SO many choices I got confused and forgot even though i have been actively searching the menu....anyway. solved.</p> <p>Thanks again!!!!!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pge Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 <p>John has the best idea here. You are just not going to get the best black and white out of the camera. Photoshop has some great presets now so you don't have to hunt the internet for good black and white conversion recipes anymore. Honestly you will be happier with your black and whites done this way.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prosper_glenn Posted March 4, 2010 Author Share Posted March 4, 2010 <p>Thanks again everyone. I agree Phil.<br> I really just wanted to see the b/w immediately to evaluate where the tones are falling and if the scene is 'working' in b/w. Thx!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark liddell Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Why anyone wants to throw out so much information in camera and accept the cameras idea of the b&w conversion I'll never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hal_b Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 <p>It takes so little time to do this in the computer, it's not even funny. ANY freebie software has a monochrome option. Even Photoshop has Mode-> Greyscale, Desaturate, Black&White, and Gradient Map that I know of. There are probably even more ways to do it that I've never explored.</p> <p>The problem with letting your camera shoot in monochrome is that it only performs the conversion once, and only at default settings. In reality, there are hundreds of ways to convert to black and white, all with varying effects. The artistic creative freedom enjoyed by black and white photographers is only available to a digital shooter if you shoot first in color, then convert later to black and white using appropriate digital darkroom methods.</p> <p>And I wouldn't be so concerned with a scene "working" in black and white, because if it ain't working for you in B&W, you'll want to revert back to color anyway.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prosper_glenn Posted March 4, 2010 Author Share Posted March 4, 2010 <p>Hal and others - you missed the KEY piece of info to this answer from John.<br> "If you record raw, then setting Picture Control to monochrome will <strong>make a black & white preview JPG, so you'll see B&W immediately on the screen, but you'll still be able to get color when you process the raw image file.</strong> Maybe more importantly, you'll be able to change the color filtering and exposure in your B&W conversion when you do post processing, if that's useful for some of the pictures."<br> Not 1 bit of info is lost. All the colour IS THERE in the RAW file...just the in camera preview is b/w.<br> It IS the best of all worlds.<br> Thanks again.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rene11664880918 Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 <p>I shoot RAW and when I want to have some shots in B&W i set it to monochrome coz looking at the B&W shots on the preview window it gets me into a B&W mood......<br> So yeah! There are reasons to do this!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fhmillard Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 <p>Capture NX will preserve B+W camera control settings. You can then save the B+W image in various formats (e.g., Tiff). Capture NX will allow you to adjust the camera control, too.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB_Gallery Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 <p>Once and awhile, I shoot black an white TIFF's, because I don't want the option of color to even enter my mind and I want to just send the damn things out. If I think it looks great, then I don't worry about sitting in front of a computer to get even better. The last time I did that it resulted in a great magazine cover. <br> Sometimes you just need to get the shot without the distraction of options, one of the main reasons I am going back to film for most stuff. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans_janssen Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 <p>Be prepared to get a color image on your computer when you work in NEF and not with NX(2).</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sd_woods Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 <p>The part that really gets me is that you bought a professional camera, and yet this is such a basic function.. some people really have far more money than sense</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 <p>Since the OP's question has been answered leaving this thread open would appear to serve no purpose other than an invitation for useless sarcasm and irrelevant comments about what others choose to do with their own equipment and preferences for photography.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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