Fotos53 Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 There's a new AP contract coming for stringers (freelance photographers) coming. Actually if you want to work for AP as a stringer you have to sign it by June 1, 2008 otherwise you won't working for them anymore. Here's a link with a look at it. http://photobusinessforum.blogspot.com/2008/05/2008-ap-contract-analysis-section-1.html Please let me know what you think about it. I think it reminds of the first AP contract that was offered to stringers way back in 1997, a very bad contract for the photographers involved. I remember nobody signed it and it was reworked with better terms for the photographers. which still wasn't the industry standard for good work for hire contracts for photogrpahers, better but not a great contract. Let me know what you think. Thank You! Note: I posted this in the News forum also, I just want to get the word out to as many people as possible and get their comments so everyone can be informed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahonri_moriancumer Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 AP = Always pushing. More, more, more from you and less money for what they get. They want everything and deserve nothing. Rights grabs is their working model these days. Used to be worth dealing with but not any longer. Enough know little about business and will sign anything. Others figure AP will be good to them and end up delivering pizza or some other work because they can't make money giving away their work for nearly nothing. AP is not a friend of the working photographer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullmetalphotograper Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 It reminds me of the old joke: <br> You can't spell stupid without UPI and you can't spell Cheap without AP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotos53 Posted May 21, 2008 Author Share Posted May 21, 2008 Just an update to my original posting on the new contract. Just some of the points that I have learned about it are: 1. All rates and expenses (mileage) are to be decided before going on the assignment, which really applies to an out of town assignment, but if there's anything extra, you pick up the tab not AP in town or out of town. 2. The stock photo sales, 25% to you as the photographer are for third party buyers only. Sounds to me like the stringers are working for AP for free or doing their work for them for the out-takes. I see no real money coming to the stringers. Members and subscribers to the AP service have to pay for the photos, stringers won't see a percentage of the sale. Only if the photos are sold to a third party will the stringers see any money out of the stock sale. (They want the photographers to file all their out-takes from the assignment with this contract, so AP can sell them as stock.) 3. If any AP member or AP (maybe even the stock photo sale) anywhere misuses your photo...guess who can get sued? That's right...the photographer, AP gets a free pass. 4. The assignment rates are all over the place. Each bureaus can pay you what they want, period, no universal or national rates. 5. All invoices have to invoiced on your personal photo stationary (hard copy) and assignment photos have to be itemized with it. No more email invoices. But on the bright side they are to be paid in thirty days from the date on your invoice. Not really a big deal. I'm sure there's more problems with it, but I can't think of them right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_onat Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Thanks for posting this. I wont bother getting near any agency like that with a ten-foot pole. Do any of these genius MBA pinheads realize that photogs are skilled thinkers with other career ops? Like video, web authoring, coding even game design? You know, careers that pay. Photogs get screwed because they allow it because it has zero bar to entry and its pretty fun...the shooting part, not the rest. Why isnt there a better photogs union to prevent this trash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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