bueh Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Well, it's time again for a Pilot Super thread. As most regulars here know, there are certain requirements to be considered into the inner circle of photo.net's elite Classic Camera Forum club. One of them is owning and using a Kamera-Werkstätten Pilot Super camera. <p> The Pilot Super is one of the earliest medium format <abbr style="border-bottom: 1px blue dashed;" title="single-lens reflex cameras">SLRs</abbr>. Unlike the Reflex-Korelle and similar cameras it features the revolutionary "box" design that later evolved into system cameras like the Hasselblad or Rollei offerings. It takes 6x6 images on regular 120 roll film and is one of the most compact <abbr style="border-bottom: 1px blue dashed;" title="single-lens reflex cameras">SLRs</abbr> for this format. It does not have interchangeable finders or backs. <p> It was built around 1939-41 in Dresden, Germany, and is the successor of the similar (but also quite different) <b><a href="http://www.retrography.com/kw.htm">Pilot 6</b></a>. <abbr style="border-bottom: 1px blue dashed;" title=" Kamera-Werkstätten Guthe & Thorsch">KW</abbr> was quite innovative in the <abbr style="border-bottom: 1px blue dashed;" title="single-lens reflex camera">SLR</abbr> design field (their claim to fame is the well-know Praktiflex) and targeted less affluent consumers with small but user-friendly picture-takers. Their cameras are therefore not the high-end German precision tools some vintage camera aficionados love, but more pedestrian in finish and built quality. The Pilot Super is a good example for this. It definitively isn't a pro-level camera, but then again pros weren't considering <abbr style="border-bottom: 1px blue dashed;" title="single-lens reflex cameras">SLRs</abbr> to be professional cameras at the time. <p> The reason for this becomes apparent with the Pilot Super: It has many teething problems of early <abbr style="border-bottom: 1px blue dashed;" title="single-lens reflex cameras">SLRs</abbr>. First of all and most importantly is the viewfinder, which is VERY dark, shows extreme vignetting and has very low contrast. The <abbr style="border-bottom: 1px blue dashed;" title="waist-level finder">WLF</abbr> may be what-you-see-is-what-you-get, but since it is pretty much only useable in bright daylight, critical focusing is rather difficult and next to impossible in "low-ish" light. That the lens isn't auto-aperture but needs to be stopped down manually (making the viewfinder image even dimmer) isn't helping things. <p> Lenses. The Pilot Super has an 32mm thread mount for interchangeable lenses. A couple of 7.5cm standard lenses from different manufacturers were offered, but nothing else. It seems like <abbr style="border-bottom: 1px blue dashed;" title=" Kamera-Werkstätten Guthe & Thorsch">KW</abbr> hadn't yet thought through this whole <abbr style="border-bottom: 1px blue dashed;" title="single-lens reflex camera">SLR</abbr> business at the time. All available lenses are mundane triplets, with speeds from f/2.9 to f/4.5. Unfortunately, my camera comes with one of the slowest lenses, an Enna Munich Ennatar 7.5cm f/4.5. Minimum focus distance is also different between the lenses and range from 9' to 1.5m. Again, mine has the least desirable 1.5m (5 feet). <p> The shutter mechanism is one of the highlights of the camera and allows speeds from 1/20 to 1/200 sec (plus bulb). Like in some of the Exa cameras it is incorporated into the mirror box design. The mirror is actually the "1st curtain" of the "focal plane" shutter. Thanks to its metal construction and overall simple-yet-efficient design is pretty failure-proof. It may be limited in shutter speed range, but unlike the Reflex-Korelle and its ambitious cloth shutter it is often in a usable condition, making the Pilot Supers good user cameras. The shutter release is on the right side of the body and is easily operated with one's right hand's thumb. <p> The operation of the Pilot Super is pretty straight-forward with a nice safety interlock for stupid amateurs. Three ruby windows in the back are used for frame counting and checking proper film advance. The camera can take 645 format images with a mask, but I haven't one. It seems to be a rather rare item. The release has a very useful double-exposure lock, which can be overridden if you want to take multiple images on one frame. The shutter can only be wound (and the mirror returned) when the film has been advanced. The lens has front-cell focusing and with the small magnifier ground glass focusing becomes possible. The <abbr style="border-bottom: 1px blue dashed;" title="waist-level finder">WLF</abbr> construction is a bit flimsy but well designed and light-tight (again, in contrast to the Reflex-Korelle and many Franke & Heidecke <abbr style="border-bottom: 1px blue dashed;" title="twin-lens reflex cameras">TLRs</abbr>). I use a rubber band to keep the chimney finder tight and preventing the magnifier from flipping down accidently (which it does with a loud and terrifying <i>bang!</i>). <p> My camera had some light leak issues. I remedied this by removing the pressure plate and sealing the two unused ruby windows. After literally months of trying, I <i>finally</i> managed to remove my stuck lens from the body (thanks to fellow photonetters for the directions), and cleaned the glass surfaces which were showing dust or possibly minor fungus. This also enabled me to reduce the minimum focus distance. For many portraits I almost unscrewed the lens from the body, which acted like a small extension ring, giving me an actual minimum focus distance of about 90cm (3'). I also found a 37mm clip-on red filter from Zeiss Ikon in my odds-and-ends accessory box, which I managed fitting onto the thread-less lens. All pictures below were taken with this filter.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bueh Posted May 19, 2008 Author Share Posted May 19, 2008 I have seen my fair share of graveyard and landscape photos in this forum. I am always a bit saddened that classic cameras aren't used for what they were designed for -- taking snapshots and capturing normal life. I mean, nothing against eternal resting places or rural scenery, but virtually every camera can produce fine-looking pictures when focused at infinity, with its lens stopped down and a static subject. My passion lies in people photography and this is what I enjoy using my vintage cameras for.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bueh Posted May 19, 2008 Author Share Posted May 19, 2008 I shot a roll of Fuji Neopan 400 black and white film. <abbr style="border-bottom: 1px blue dashed;" title="black and white">B&W</abbr> film is much easier to scan for me, less costly to print professionally and I have one of Germany's best, dedicated <abbr style="border-bottom: 1px blue dashed;" title="black and white film">B&W</abbr> labs just around the corner. So after my test roll last year for checking the camera's functions was color slide, I decided to try it with something different. By the way, I metered all my shots carefully with my trusty Sekonic L-508 incident light meter.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bueh Posted May 19, 2008 Author Share Posted May 19, 2008 Originally I often used my classic cameras for street photography, taking portraits of strangers and shooting candid pictures of everyday life. While doing this I sometimes encountered groups of young people, all dressed up in strange costumes or rock star clothing. I approached them and got to know them.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bueh Posted May 19, 2008 Author Share Posted May 19, 2008 I learned that they are "cosplayers", who enjoy dressing up as the characters from Japanese comics, video games or popular music scene. Many of them make their own costumes, spending lots of free time (and their pocket money) on sewing fabric, finding the right accessories or traveling to conventions. They have huge online communities and use their social network websites to interact with each other, review Japanese popular culture trends and schedule events. <p> Of course documenting their style plays an important part in this <abbr style="border-bottom: 1px blue dashed;" title="do-it-yourself">DIY</abbr> subculture. I learned they were lacking experienced photographers with good gear for taking pictures for their online galleries, so I began volunteering at their (pretty informal) local conventions. First I used my analog cameras, then I switched to my <abbr style="border-bottom: 1px blue dashed;" title="digital single-lens reflex camera">dSLR</abbr> for convenience's sake (and cost's).<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bueh Posted May 19, 2008 Author Share Posted May 19, 2008 Fortunately, I can work pretty well with children and teenagers (and people in general -- hey, I'm a street photographer!). To make a long story short, I became friends with some of them and everyone liked their pictures, of course. Almost every week I join the local cosplayers for couple of hours, taking pictures and mingling with this friendly crowd of young people. This gave me the opportunity of having a pool of willing subjects to shoot and practise my photography skills.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bueh Posted May 19, 2008 Author Share Posted May 19, 2008 Those who ask I mentor about all questions regarding photography and gear purchases. From time to time I try to lead them to the dark side by bringing some film camera (e.g., my Mamiya RZ67) and letting them shoot a couple of rolls with it (I have way too many rolls of film in my freezer, I am always glad of having them put to use). Any analog camera is old tech for them and except for those few with professional photographers in their family no one has ever heard of medium format. <p> The Pilot Super looked "normal" (and probably harmless) enough to gather not much attention. The red filter was much more often asked about and I had to explain and demonstrate its effect on <abbr style="border-bottom: 1px blue dashed;" title="black and white film">B&W</abbr> film multiple times. Several people announced to buy their next sunglasses with red-tinted lenses...<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bueh Posted May 19, 2008 Author Share Posted May 19, 2008 As you can see, when the weather is well, most of their gatherings are outside in some park or public garden. Since the Pilot Super has only limited shutter speeds (1/200 sec top, see above), I actually brought the red filter in case it was too sunny for shooting 400 speed film at all. My lens also stops down only to f/16, but fortunately it wasn't that bright, so I could use the lens pretty much wide open most of the time. After all, I wanted to shoot portraiture with a small depth-of-field to show off the weird bokeh of the Ennatar lens.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bueh Posted May 19, 2008 Author Share Posted May 19, 2008 Like most classic cameras when put to actual use, the Pilot Super produces great images. I am sure the Ennatar won't win any <abbr style="border-bottom: 1px blue dashed;" title="modulation transfer function">MTF</abbr> chart contests, but is a pretty decent and sharp lens. Despite the poor viewfinder, the camera's <abbr style="border-bottom: 1px blue dashed;" title="single-lens reflex">SLR</abbr> design has the big advantage of being free from problems that plague many vintage cameras -- focus misalignments, parallax, or lens issues. <abbr style="border-bottom: 1px blue dashed;" title="What You See Is What You Get">WYSIWYG</abbr> is very useful and helps critical focusing. On the other hand, the viewfinder image is not only very dark, but for all practical purposes it shows also much less than will end up on film. Due to severe vignetting the exact framing and composition is a little bit of guesswork.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bueh Posted May 19, 2008 Author Share Posted May 19, 2008 As you can see, I got only 8 pictures from my roll. The other four frames are completely blank (including all group shots) -- I have no idea why this is so. Since I worked very carefully, there must be some kind of shutter failure. I checked the camera thoroughly before selecting it for this endeveour, but I did not notice that the shutter wasn't opening properly. While there may have been one or two blank frames on my test roll (which I attributed to user error), I did not expect to lose one third of my images. This issue is a serious dealbreaker for me and may result in selling the camera. Oh, well... >__<" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enric Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Lovely pictures and a lovely camera. Well, shame on me, I promised my wife I wouldn't buy any more cameras... but this one is sooo cute ^_^ Well... I'm not sure I will get it, as I just found it at eBay ans it's still in the auction. Next thing I need from eBay is a cupboard, LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Bueh, Thanks. My own copy of this is not nearly so pristine as yours, but it does work. You are certainly right about the dimness of the finder. You can only see what comes through the lens in bright light, but then the light is so bright that you have to really shade the finder to see anything at all, and once you've stopped down, well it doesn't get easier. I looked around for the negatives I took with it, but haven't found them yet, If I do, I'll post some of them.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 And by the way, was the only hint of how to remove the lens, the one about unscrewing it counter-clockwise? I can't get mine off either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustys pics Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Excellent portraits. It makes me think of something August Sander would have done in the 21st century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bueh Posted May 19, 2008 Author Share Posted May 19, 2008 <blockquote style="margin:15px 60px; font-style:italic;">And by the way, was the only hint of how to remove the lens, the one about unscrewing it counter-clockwise? I can't get mine off either. </blockquote><p> Yes, that's it. When looking at the camera viewed from the front, you have to turn the lens counter-clockwise. I discovered that the lever on the aperture ring is very useful for this operation, since you can grip it much better than the small thread mount ring. Use your thumb and index finger you and will be able to unscrew the lens. Good luck! <p> And by the way, my camera is pretty battered and worn out. But I have the original ever-ready case, which helps keeping the camera light-tight and clean. <br> <blockquote style="margin:15px 60px; font-style:italic;">It makes me think of something August Sander would have done in the 21st century. </blockquote><p> I guess that's to much praise for this amateur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_the_waste Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 What a wonderful and insightful post. It's a pleasure to read. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mskovacs Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Excellent post. Sooner or later I will happen upon one of these! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerwb Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 I remember wanting one of these when I was a teenager, knowing that I could never afford a Hasselblad but if I could get my hands on the Pilot, I could pretend it was almost as good. I also wanted an Optika IIA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony_lockerbie Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Never seen a Pilot myself so I am pleased that you have featured it here. Those are wonderfully conceived portraits of an obviously interesting group of young people. The swirly bokeh from that lens is just the ticket for what you are doing. You say that they were happy with the shots but did they appreciate, or notice that "look" that you achieved with the old analogue camera? Always great to see shots of that calibre here, keep them coming. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winfried_buechsenschuetz1 Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 "The reason for this becomes apparent with the Pilot Super: It has many teething problems of early SLRs. First of all and most importantly is the viewfinder, which is VERY dark, shows extreme vignetting and has very low contrast." All SLRs and TLRs up to the 1950s used silvered mirrors which corrode over time. Replacing the mirror by a modern one (aluminium coated) or having it re-silvered (or actually re-aluminized) will help a lot. If the silver mirror has brown stains, it is corroded, and trying to clean it will just remove the corroded silver coating. Vignetting (i.e. showing a "hot spot") is mostly due to the focus screen. Again, replacing it by a modern one or a DIY screen (I had good results with spraying slide-frame glass with matte transparent paint) and adding a fresnel lens (cannibalized from used Hasselblad two-part screens, or bought new from Edmund Optics) will brighten up the viewfinder significantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l._david_tomei1 Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 A very interesting post. My sincere compliments. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bueh Posted May 20, 2008 Author Share Posted May 20, 2008 <blockquote style="margin:15px 60px; font-style:italic;">Replacing the mirror by a modern one (aluminium coated) or having it re-silvered (or actually re-aluminized) will help a lot. </blockquote><p> Actually, no. I had the mirrors of three of my problem-child <abbr style="border-bottom: 1px blue dashed;" title="single-lens reflex cameras">SLRs</abbr> (Rolleicord III, Yashica 635 and Weltaflex) resilvered and the benefit was neglectable. Maybe you had more look but I am pretty sure that ground glass design (with its lack of microprisms or fresnel lenses) is the real reason for the dimness of the viewfinder image. You are welcome if you want to give it a try, but after several failed repair attempts with various cameras/lenses I'll just leave the ground glass the way it is. <br> <blockquote style="margin:15px 60px; font-style:italic;">did they appreciate, or notice that "look" that you achieved with the old analogue camera? </blockquote><p> No, not really. While a <abbr style="border-bottom: 1px dashed blue;" title="black and white film">B&W</abbr> or even <i>film</i> image has some novelty for them, discussing the aesthetics of uncoated lenses or astigmatism will get you blank stares. But what they always appreciate are portraits with small depth-of-field, because the basics of bokeh, selective focus techniques or fast primes lenses are completely unknown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winfried_buechsenschuetz1 Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 I also found that a good screen contributes more to viewfinder brightness than a good mirror. But once you start upgrading your camera I think it might be wise to do both ;-) In early days they used just sand-blasted screens. Today's screens sometimes use well-defined micro-structures and/or fresnel lenses to direct the light to the user's eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn_mabbutt Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 <b>Bueh B.</b> - <i>But what they always appreciate are portraits with small depth-of-field, because the basics of bokeh, selective focus techniques or fast primes lenses are completely unknown.</i> <p> Good point - something I've noted as well. From what I understand the mechanics of a light-gathering surface area smaller than regular 35mm film (such as the sensor sizes in many digital cameras) make small depth of field harder to achieve, so the effect is much more rare than it used to be. <p> I've shown people small DOF shots before and gotten genuinely astonished responses - just one more thing in film's favour, I guess :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick_van_Nooij Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Some wonderful photos Bueh B, Thanks for sharing them. I think I'll invest in one of these cameras as well one of these days. A pre-war SLR would make a very nice addition to my collection. In my search for one I came across the KW Praktiflex. That appears to be an interesting camera as well. Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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