Kodachrome 200 and available darkness

In David Allan Harvey's pictures from Sevilla he has some really grainy pictures taken at dusk or dawn (this is in the book: National Geographic - The photographs). I believe they were taken with pushed Kodachrome 200 and probably with a handheld Leica.

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Can I have Kodachrome 200 pushed or does one have to work at NG for that service? If it's possible, what are the speed ratings for 1 stop, 2 stops and 3 stops push? I suppose it's not as easy as 400, 800, 1600?

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I finally bought a Leica M6 this week. 20 years ago a photo dealer who did NOT sell Leica smirked at my inquiry and told me that the fine Leica M was a too good camera for my needs. I've been wanting one ever since that remark! Now I want to take grainy available darkness pictures!

K200 with a 2-stop push is shot at EI 500.

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For grainy available light, Delta 3200 gets you their in style,

IMHO.

Peter

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Are you sure those shots were taken with K200? They might have been

the older Ektachrome 200 pushed. From looking at the shots you mean I

could not tell what film they were.

Thanks for the answers. No, I'm not sure it is K200, I only think

that I once read about that. I could be totally wrong.

Double-check with whoever does your Kodachrome processing, but I

think the standard "push" for K-200 in the K-Lab processors (which

everyone seems to be using, even the private labs in the US) is 1-1/3

stops. So try shooting K200 at EI 500. From my own experience, K200

can take a 1-stop push without degrading image quality.

I've used K200 at ISO 500, with the appropriate push processing, and

the results are very nice -- color palette is rich but muted,

sharpness is good, and grain is large but pretty. It will cost you,

though, since the film is relatively expensive and push processing

costs more than regular, usually.

Rather than strain an E6 film into going where it wasn't designed, why

not use an 800 ISO C41 colour neg film? Fuji 800 Press or Kodak Supra

800 or Fuji NPZ 800 - all these are designed to work in low light and

will give you finer grain, greater sharpness, greater dynamic range

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If you really, really, really need slides for projection, then you can

always have a lab made projection dupes of the keeper shots.

I haven't seen the book in question, but a lot of Dave Harvey's work

in Spain (rampaging stallion, e.g.) dates back to the 70s when THE

high speed film was High Speed Ektachrome (iso 160) pushed 1 1/3 stops

to 400. He was shooting Nikon at the time - the stallion was with a

180 2.8.

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I don't believe K200 came in until the early/mid 80s.

Hi, Peter:

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Let me congratulate you for your new M6 in the first place.

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Peter,I had an experience related to your subject that could be of

some help: I bought this nice OM1 in Sweden right before leaving (it

was in my pre-Leica years), loaded a roll of Kodachrome 100 in it and

forgot about the camera in my way back home. I continued shooting

with my FM2n but run out of film in Madrid late at night with

incredible Christmas lighting and closed stores. Though I didn't want

to use the "new" OM1 before being familiar enough with it the only

film left was in it so I continued shooting Olympus. And suddenly I

noticed the camera was still set at ISO 400 the way it came from the

store . . . too late to do anything but continue shooting and tell

the lab what happened once back at home.

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And that was the way my nice grainy slides of Madrid at night in

available darkness with muted colours were born. But perhaps it only

happens in Spain . . .

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Cheers and enjoy your new magic box.

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-Iván

Peter, unless there is something about K200 that makes it attractive

to you, you might try Fuji Provia 400, either at 400 or pushed. I

find it to be finer grain than K200.

Thanks for all the answers. I guess I was wrong about the Sevilla-

pictures being shot with Kodachrome 200, since the film hadn't been

invented then...

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Well, there is no shortage of suggestions and I'll have to try most

of them! I'll start with a roll of Fuji 800 negative film from my

freezer. Last time I used it it seemed to be more like 600 than 800

so I might ask for a push when having it developed.

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Ivan, thanks for the welcome to Leica-world. Where did you go when

you left Sweden?