russ_britt3 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Flame on...... I know some will get mad....but I for one....(maybe the only one) would love to see a forum for film cameras/medium format. Any body else interested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen hazelton Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 I'm not sure what your point is. On this, the "Medium Format" forum, I see about 4 posts out of 50 relating to digital cameras or backs. That's hardly enough to justify splitting the forum into film and MF-Digital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico_digoliardi Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 There IS a medium format forum here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akajohndoe Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 I feel like I am speaking with "Guardian of Forever" in the Star Trek episode "The City on the Edge of Forever" which since before the sun burned hot in space, it had awaited a question. What exactly is your question for the MF forum that cannot coexist with a meager few digital questions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trex1 Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 I actually agree with this guy. In fact why not just make photonet all film only? Screw digital. Are there any good film only sites? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jo_irps Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Are there any good film only sites? APUG.ORG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark liddell Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 photonet all film? I'm pretty sure the advertisers wouldn't like that! I second apug.org, a great digital free forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeaster Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 But if we all go over to agup, how will we get out daily dose of over-saturated sunsets and bugs-on-flowers? Will we have to start buying up Velvia and post questions like "How can I reproduce this old digital filter effect with modern film?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew booth Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 It's possible that Russ's post got shifted here from another forum... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ_britt3 Posted September 21, 2006 Author Share Posted September 21, 2006 Sorry just a question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ_britt3 Posted September 21, 2006 Author Share Posted September 21, 2006 I guess i`m the only one that only uses film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skygzr Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 "The City on the Edge of Forever"....ah, a classic! Written by Harlan Ellison with Joan Collins as Kirk's girlfriend in 1930's Earth. No red shirts in this one, though. http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/TOS/episode/68716.html The Guardian is fully capable of answering questions like, "What camera should I buy to take pictures like Ansel Adams?" The other question is not unreasonable....but my answer is, the forum is fine like it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly_flanigan1 Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Digital backs for Hassleblads have been available for over a decade now. Some folks shoot film and digital and have no bias or purity issues, but just have real world clients with deadlines. Clients are concerned with the quality and deadlines, not the path a photogrpher uses. Digital backs for 4x5 ie Large Format now are over a decade old too. There is no reason to create a film only medium format forum. Just make your questions aimed towards film if you strive to get answers mostly from film users. A question about a Medium Format 80mm Perfectogon lens will get answers from both film and digital camps if the lens is the ones folks use. What if the lighting group split into strobe and tungsten? where would the chap who used both post his questions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ_britt3 Posted September 21, 2006 Author Share Posted September 21, 2006 Who uses tungston lights? I get the point ,Thanks ....good answer...I really love the post...I just bought a Hassey with 6 lenes and three backs...what type and size film should I buy to get great 60X60s without really trying.....I shot a roll ..its was fuzzy and exposure was bad...I guess I should have bought a differrent camera.What camera give beautiful pictures all the time! My mother always said it takes all kinds of people......Why?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jean-louis llech Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 I don't like digital. I am an old film photographer. But that's my choice.<br> - Some people here use film cameras,<br> - some other use digital cameras.<br> The guy and the camera are very often if not most of the time the same ones.<p> Please, Russ, don't forget that :<p> <b>WE ARE <u>ALL</u> "LIGHT-WRITERS". WE ARE <u>ALL</u> PHOTOGRAPHERS.</b><br> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolan_ross Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Russ, your not the only person that is a dedicated film user. But people want to read about the digital world. IT's the future of imaging. It's hard to swallow the digital thing, but it works on you and you finally give in. I think that most people were very hesitant to go to digital which is really a single frame camcorder but the possibilites are endless. It's just not photography, it's imaging. It's the endless possibility that brings you to it. Once everybody on the team starts using steroids then you have to also if you are going to keep up. But photography is a hobby for me and I don't have to keep up so I will just remain a poor photographer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpj Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Well, I guess I have to admit that I'm with the group that just "doesn't get it!" This IS the "Medium Format Film Forum" and as somebody mentioned perhaps 4 people per month mention using "digital film." Again, to repeat another comment above but in a different way, "digital" is just another method of capturing the image--it uses the same equipment: light-tight box, lens, finder, shutter and removeable permanent medium on which the "photographer" records his views, thoughts, feeling, emotions (or his two feet and the floor which he trips the shutter accidentally.) Both "film" and "digital" images can be reproduced as inkjet or photosensitive paper prints and both can be edited, altered, photoshopped, or whatever you call it--manipulated--in the printing process. Most medium format folks use film because digital backs are so expensive that their money is more usefully applied to purchasing lenses, AND, there are slight "signature" differences in tone that can't be captured with the same feeling digitally as on film, but which often can be reproduced with digital manipulation afterward. All of that puts us back to where we started: "b&w film" "color negative film" "color transparency film" and "digital film" are all "IMAGE RECORDING MEDIA" and that's the only difference. To draw further distinctions would require at least FOUR separate forums, each based on "type of recording media" and resulting in the b&w people having a separate forum from the "color transparency" people. It seems to me that this was pretty much agreed upon over the last two years as "digital" took over the largest segment of what used to be called the "35mm" market while film still dominated the Medium and Large format approaches to photography. Don't most people see it this way ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jean-louis llech Posted September 22, 2006 Share Posted September 22, 2006 We might have several separate forums, one for Hasselblad, one for Mamiya, one for Rollei and so on...<br> And of course separate forums for film Hasselblads, digital Hasselblad...<br> But, what would be the advantage ? I don't find any one. On the contrary, I think that a unique forum is a wonderful exchange of experiments. I am an unconditional Rollei user, but I always read threads about Mamiya, Hasselblad, Pentax and other brands.<br> I am aware that my medium format camera can't use a digital back, and that one day, I will maybe have to buy a digital back for my Linhof, and leave my Rollei in its case, for lack of films.<br> But I don't need neither self-satisfaction of other Rollei users, nor some false feeling of security of film users.<br> Only the difference enriches us. That's life.<br> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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