nancy_bueler Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Hi all. I just wanted to post the latest pics from my Holga. Enjoy! Nancy<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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connealy Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Looks like you are having fun with that Holga, and you've clearly got a good eye for composition. I have to say though that I don't think you are really doing justice to the potential of your images. If you put that image of the stairs into Photoshop and hit "auto-contrast" and "auto-levels" it really goes from ordinary to extraordinary. Some adjustment in scanning may produce some of the same result, but I think it is worth playing with the images a bit in any case. Perhaps that fails some holga purity test, but I would have a hard time caring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nancy_bueler Posted July 20, 2005 Author Share Posted July 20, 2005 Thanks Mike. Yes, I love my Holgas, so much so that I have three of them. I like the way the stairs look now, but I will take your advice, even though I'm a-scared of Photoshop! Nancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nancy_bueler Posted July 20, 2005 Author Share Posted July 20, 2005 OK, I did the auto contrast; here it is. What do you think? Nancy<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connealy Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 To my eye, that is an improvement in terms of tonality. However, both that image and the original one have some odd pixelation which is especially apparent in the bottom of the photo as square blocks of tonality. It seem kind of like the image is being displayed at the 200% level. Maybe it would be worthwhile to go back to the original scan, or even to re-scan the negative. I'm going to attach my PS version just for reference. I am usually very reluctant to play with other people's images because I don't really believe in any kind of absolute standards of what images should look like. If you were basically happy with that original, I hope you will accept my apology and move on. I did autocontrast and autolevels along with a slight downward resize to reduce the pixelation.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nancy_bueler Posted July 20, 2005 Author Share Posted July 20, 2005 Mike, I'm always willing to accept other people's advice about how my images could be improved, and any suggestions to make them look better. I don't know about you, but I'm not always the best judge of how my own images could be improved, as they always look fine to me. I rely on the opinion of others, to open my eyes to all possibilities. I do like the original image, but I also like how it looks after your adjustments. I guess it depends on your individual taste, right? Nancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connealy Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Yes, I think you first have to please yourself about the image. It is also important not to just make some judgement and forget where you have been. I've been looking back thirty years recently to pictures I had largely forgotten. Some, as now, are worthless, but others show qualities to which I was completely unconscious at the time. I don't think it is a totally individual matter because at least in my case there is some intent to communicate. There is also the issue of developing an awareness of potential which comes partly as a result of looking at a broad array of work by people who have devoted themselves to excellence. I think that last bit is hard because it can't really be accomplished by this means we are using. Looking at actual prints is really to visit another world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandeha Lynch Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 It can take a long time to get used to PhotoShop, and not only because of the apparent complexity and range of the tools. Somehow the eye has to learn as well, but it's very much down to taking your time and practicing the steps. If you already have a solid sense of visual composition, it's like having a rock-steady left-hand rhythm in your piano playing, but the right hand of melody must coordinate with it. <p> Analysing the tone and contrast of a print in order to make an optimal selection is difficult because it means rejecting other alternatives. All those alternatives (low key, high key, low contrast, high contrast) may each seem appealing for different reasons. I think it was Raymond Queneau who once wrote the same short story in 99 different styles - to show that each style had an equal <i>value</i>. We can do the same with our images, but in the end there is going to be one optimal style of presentation that displays our concept at its clearest. Looking at the images of others analytically and critically helps us in deciding what works best in our own. <p> I like Mike's rework of your steps Nancy, because ... its balance is clearer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Nancy or anyone else here have any of you tryed a WOCA with the all glass lens? I was wondering because I thought if it was sharper I could always use a filter with some vasoline near the edge to recreate the Kolga look but also use it for Med format with sharper images the newest one even has a built in flash and is still under 30 bucks at Freestyle. Best reguards and eyes from Mars. Larry<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 oops I used the huge one here is the smaller one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nancy_bueler Posted July 21, 2005 Author Share Posted July 21, 2005 Sorry, Larry, I've never used a WOCA, so I can't help you out. Nancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenn_thoreson Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 With a minor amount of darkroom manipulation, those stairs would make a most stunning fine art print. Good job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connealy Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Larry, that's pretty nice work with a plastic toy-cam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nancy_bueler Posted July 21, 2005 Author Share Posted July 21, 2005 I agree, that's a good shot with a toy, Larry, nice texture and contrast. Thanks Glenn, for the nice compliment. I've always aimed for fine art photography. It would be nice to get back into the darkroom, too; I've been away for too long. Nancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Thank you. I always said it is not the equipment it is the photographer. My son though wan not happy because he hates to have his picture taken but whith a father like me he has no choice.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nancy_bueler Posted July 22, 2005 Author Share Posted July 22, 2005 Larry, you're son must be a teenager, right? They're all the same; hate to have their picture taken, but then complain when you don't! Nancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Yep he is 17 going on 42 he starts college this fall. 2 down to to leave the nest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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