tim_dodd1 Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Ok Id like to clarify when to use kodak NC (neutral contrast) or VC ( I guess this means high contrast) in the Portra range, Im thinking that the same applies to Fuji too. My application is primarily Landscapes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxloverxx Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 <p>There's no appropriate time or place to use a specific film — it's all very much a matter of personal opinion.</p> <p>VC has more saturation compared to NC (vivid colour vs neutral colour). At least, I think it means colour — it might well mean contrast, although increased saturation might also lead to increased contrast.</p> <p>I don't think Fuji uses this kind of naming for their films — as far as I know, the Pro line consists of 160C, 160S, 400H and 800Z — the 160 films come in 2 types, one more saturated than the other, but there're only 1 type of 400 and 800 films.<br> I heard that they recently took out a lot of films to reintroduce them sometime later, but I'm totally confused on this (and never bothered searching it up.)</p> <p>Why not go on to Kodak & Fuji's websites and look up the films? That'll give you the most accurate descriptions.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iliafarniev Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 <p>NC/VC stands for Neutral colour /Vivid colour. The contrast is same in both films. NC produce less saturated colour and more critical to colour temperature. It is also less critical for scanning and editing.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfcole Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 <p>Tim,<br> I would not recommend any of the Portra films (or their Fuji equivalents) for landscape photography, unless you are specifically going for a special look. Relatively speaking, they are ALL low contrast. It will of course depend on your lenses and scanner, but there's a reason why just about every landscape photographer of note who uses film uses either Velvia or Provia.<br> Scott</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 <p>It's a matter of personal aesthetics, Scott. I know of some highly respected photographers who preferred these high quality color negative films over Velvia and Provia specifically for landscapes and other fine art photography.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfcole Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 <p>Lex,<br> I'm sure there may be some photographers that do, but they are probably in the minority. I would suggest to a landscape photographer looking at films to consider Velvia or Provia (or the Kodak equivalent because many like them as well) for the following reasons:<br> 1. feedback on issues such as color balance and exposure will be much more valuable. Unless a lab does it for you on the prints, it is not easy to achieve a correct color balance on negative film. It's even more of an issue if you scan yourself. <br> 2. On my scanner, Porta comes out very low contrast. Bumping up the contrast brings out the grain and dust. For sharpness and low grain (what most landscape photographers want), I doubt Portra films can compete with Velvia. I wouldn't be surprised if photographers that do prefer Portra are shooting large format and going for a specific (and very subtle) type of aesthetic.</p> <p>This is an example of how Portra 160vc comes out of my scanner, and Epson V500 (I'm assuming beginners may have something similar, and not a Nikon 9000). The contrast is not helped by my geriatric Bronica S2 lenses, but note the bluish cast. This is from a recent engagement shoot, taken at about 6pm--the light was fading and warm, and I used a polarizer! Achieving good color balance and contrast on a file like this takes much more work and tweaking than transparency. I'm expecting some Provia from the same shoot to come back today, and I'll post a comparison.</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfcole Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 <p>Here is an example of a scan of Provia 100-same setup as above. Note the color balance--the scan came out almost exactly as the film appears on my light box. All that's needed is to add a little contrast back in. Without the Provia, I would not have had a reference for the color, even with the DSLR that I also used that day (my Pentax invariably turns out grass that is too yellow):</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfcole Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 <p>PS--the above was overexposed, but it still clearly shows the difference between a Portra or Provia scan.<br> Scott</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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