mike k Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Hi, Since Lightroom version 1 is coming out, and I'd be quite interested to use itfor real wedding jobs. I've tried Beta 4 and liked the interface and ease ofcontrol. However, there's one problem I couldn't solve. It's whether Lightroomwould read the in-camera settings already in the NEF file. For example, if I set in my D200 the sharpening to be high, saturation high,etc, and I shoot RAW + Jpeg, I'll have 2 files. One "cooked" jpeg, and one NEFfile. In Windows Picture Viewer or in photoshop when I open up the jpeg I'llsee the jpeg as I've shot it. However, when I open up the NEF with Photoshop(Adobe Raw) or Lightroom, everything look pale and different. I figured it'sbecause the sharpening, saturation, etc, wasn't loaded by those programs. If Iopen the NEF with Nikon Capture Editor, the photo would look the same as thejpeg, because it understands all the settings. I shoot in RAW only in a typical wedding job, and I'd like to use Lightroom forediting the photos, but it'd be a waste of time if the in-camera settings arelost (I know that the white-balance can be set to "As-shot", so that doesn'tcount), and I have to re-do all the adjustments. Is what I'm experiencing normal? Or is there any way to set the Lightroom sothat I can read the settings in the NEF file? Thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 doubtful that it could use the sharpening setting. number 1 it would have to interpret what Nikon meant by "high sharpening" because #2.) Adobe usesvery different sharpening algorithms than Nikon (or Canon, etc.) do. You can set up a custom default set of preset parameters for that camera and PsLr v1.0 could apaprently apply those to all D200 images or even ones shot with that specific camera body. See the short video tutorials Irish photographer Sean McCormack has on his Lightroom blog: http://www.seanmcfoto.com/lightroom/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mawz Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Only Capture 4 and Capture NX can read those settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrengold Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 Adam, not entirely true. Mike, have a look at ToneUp. It can read NEF files for all Nikons (maybe not for D40 yet) and opens them with the jpg metadata active as well. http://www.toneupstudio.com/ It also allows custom curves to be applied especially if you load their 'straight' curve into your camera. It also allows customised curves to be uploaded to the camera and there is an online database of many curves to try. It also allows images to be edited as well as batch processing to jpg and tif if you know which curve you want to apply to a series of images. I have a low contrast curve custom curve to produce jpg's uploaded to my D50 which compresses the highlights to reduce them blowing, and ups the shadows at the same time. One hit of the auto levels in Picasa and pretty much how i like it straight from the jpeg. If not I still have the NEF. All this for $15. Bargain. There also useful forums as well. Good luck Darren Below are somw examples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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darrengold Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 For some reason that last one hasn't recompressed very well and doesn't look too good as posted. Looks fine when displayed in image viewer at native res. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnin_kyle Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 it might have to do with your color space setting on your D200 if you save your Raw in Adobe RGB, the colors will look dull compared to your jpeg unless your software can read it otherwise, use sRGB because it is more widely accepted by most softwares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_fassman Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 Shouldn't sRGB be avoided and Adobe RGB only be used, when post processing: RGB1 for portraits, 3 for landscapes and 2 for general pix? This is what all the literature states. The custom curves loaded into the Camera only affects the jpeg, that's why the huge diff betw it and the NEF. Have you read the intro in Capture NX, on how to set the in Camera Optimization )for jpegs) when you shoot NEF + jpeg? This might add to a better understanding and answer to your question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Ingold Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Lightroom uses ACR for NEF files, which reads some but not all in-camera settings. It is extremely easy to make adjustments in ACR in Bridge or Lightroom for batches RAW files, so this is not something to worry about. If you insist on retaining in-camera adjustments, you can use Nikon Capture NX, or use the RAW+JPEG mode in the camera. Once you see the results, I doubt you will bother in the future. In-camera adjustments aren't all that great. In the end, it's better to keep a consistent work flow, rather than bounce out and back from another (e.g., Capture) program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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