dan_spellman Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 <p>Hey guys. Sorry to post something so vauge but I feel pretty lost... my only "experience" with flashes are the 2 I got randomly from second hand stores. None of these work with my neo 500D though (and they suck anyway) so I think it's time I buy one.<br> The only two features I *know* Id need are being able to have the flash off camera, and being able to have it fire very fast (for freezing water droplets for example). Would this require a rather expensive flash? Ideally I'd only want to spend a few hundred, but I'd probably be willing to save up further if necessary.</p> <p>By the way...what actually classified a flash as a speedlite? ^_^;</p> <p>Thanks a lot for your input!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_holland Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 <p>If you are willing to put in the work required to understand how this all works, that knowledge will pay you back later. You don't need to spend a lot of cash to do this, and in fact if you are willing to learn how triggering works, you could do a lot, especially with non-Canon flashes. However, you need to be honest in your reply, since learning this by yourself without a helpful mentor can be an upwater swim.<br> Are you using a Canon camera? The easy (though more expensive) way to do this is to use Canon's optical triggering system, and if you do that you retain ETTL metering, and you don't need to buy extra triggering devices or extra trigger cables. If you don't want to put in the effort this is the easy way out. It gets you going quickly so you can focus on the most important issue of creative thinking.<br> Regardless, go to the s-t-r-o-b-i-s-t website and do the free lighting seminar series, 101. <br /> <br /> Dave</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_ferris Posted December 6, 2009 Share Posted December 6, 2009 <p>Daniel,</p> <p>I 100% agree with Dave, go to the Strobist website. For less than $50 you can do all you want with the flashes you have, all will be explained and demonstrated over there.</p> <p>Don't get sidetracked and don't buy anything other than cables and hotshoe triggers, learn with what you have, find out what it can't do for you (very little) and buy stuff when you need to.</p> <p>Have fun, Scott.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_spellman Posted December 7, 2009 Author Share Posted December 7, 2009 <p>My camera is indeed a Canon 500D. My flash is a Vivitar 2600, I dont think its power can be adjusted (on manual it just fires at maximum power).<br> So it sounds like I would still need to buy a new flash (so that I have the ability to adjust power settings), then get cables and hotshoe triggers for the off-camera shooting? Sorry I did watch the strobist vid but still sort of lost..</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenPapai Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 <p>Canon make two excellent Speedlites for you: the 580EX II and the 430 EX.</p> <p>I have the 580EX (ver. I) and would buy it again and again... it is the best flash for a Canon body, bar none.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
py-photography Posted December 7, 2009 Share Posted December 7, 2009 <p>I have the canon 430 EX II and a sunpak and vivitar 285.<br> For on camera I love the 430, give nice fill and the camera and the flash talk the same lingo. <br> Off camera via radio triggers the Vivitar and Sunpak work great. <br> So if you are looking to use it on Camera I would say stick with Canon.<br> If you are looking into off camera I really like the power and control of the Vivitar.<br> Once I got the flash off camera a whole new photography world opened up to me. Its great fun playing with light off camera and the number of different ways a person can light the same subject.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_spellman Posted December 8, 2009 Author Share Posted December 8, 2009 <p>Alright so this Vivitar 285 looks pretty good. Im not sure how to tell what radio slave thing would work with a particular flash? Im ordering from Adorama... radio slaves http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=itemlist&cat1=Flash/Lighting&cat2=Slaves&cat3=Radio%20Slaves</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
py-photography Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 <p>Daniel,<br> The triggers I currently use are these ones.. http://www.gadgetinfinity.com/product.php?productid=16766<br> They get mixed reviews on the net, but have worked 95% of the time for me. I did do a simple mod adding a antenna. If you like I can dig up the link for the mod, when I get home tonight.</p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas_sullivan Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 <p>Peter.....those gadgetinfinity rec/trans are purely a trigger.....correct? meaning, do they support Canon ETTL?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
py-photography Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 <p>Thomas,<br> That is correct, completely manual.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallplumphotography Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 <p>If you're going to buy the Cactus triggers, at least get the new version which is the V4. The Tx already has an antenna built-in. Several hundred shots in and the only problem I've had is me underestimating how long my 430EXII takes to recharge....</p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallplumphotography Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 <blockquote> <p>By the way...what actually classified a flash as a speedlite? ^_^;</p> </blockquote> <p>As for this question: Speedlite is the trademarked name for Canon's flashes. So, the classification is whatever Canon calls a speedlite.<br> Not to be confused with Speedlights which are Nikon's flashes....</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
py-photography Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 <p>Mike,<br> Since I haven't really researched anything about the v4 triggers (been super busy), are there any other changes?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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