craig rainbolt Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 What is the best external battery pack to use with the SB-800 to get rid of recycle time when shooting sports? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Full size Quantum Turbo, Dyna-Light Jackrabbit 30 watt Digital Camera Battery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric friedemann Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 You want a "high-voltage pack" like the ones Ellis mentions. These packs give fast recycling times, which make them worthwhile. Also, the cords for these packs plug into a flash's high-voltage terminal and don't require you to modify the battery compartment door, which is a pain in the a$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Ellis, I'm assuming Nikon's recommendations for cool-off periods between multiple full power pops still apply regardless of whether an external battery pack is used, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 <em>Ellis, I'm assuming Nikon's recommendations for cool-off periods between multiple full power pops still apply regardless of whether an external battery pack is used, correct?</em> <p> Yes. I think the quantum documentation warns you not to exceed a certain number of pops between cooling off periods for the flash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Yes unless you just don't care about longevity of your gear -- sometimes longevity is a valid concern and sometimes not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich_taylor____mequon__wi Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 I'd recommend the Quantum Turbo 2x2 over the Turbo. Check the specs (www.qtm.com). It's recycle time is the same as the Turbo, but it is lighter, offers more flashes per charge, and you have the option of also powering your camera. Another option is the Turbo Compact, depending on your needs. It weighs a scant 1 pound and attaches to the bottom of the camera. You can use it to power camera, flash, or both. It's not as powerful as either of the other Turbos, but very convenient and handy to have as a spare power source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted June 28, 2005 Share Posted June 28, 2005 Thanks. That'll give me something to ponder when deciding whether to add a belt pack. If I limit my use to fill flash I probably won't have to worry as much. If I anticipate needing more I guess I'll have to consider Metz or something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_skomial Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Why don't you just consider external battery packs from Nikon, as described in the SB-800 Instruction Manual. None of them provides direct high voltage to the SB-800. They provide recycle time 2 seconds if used at full power, or faster in auto or fractional power. It is not clear if SB-800 would take direct high voltage input, like the older Nikon flashes or other bands, e.g. Sunpak (circa 330 Volts was used in older flashes for direct input). Even if that is allowed though, low voltage supply would be necessary as well to power the internal SB-800 electronics. The external power pack would need to have low and high voltage dual batteries, and extended electronics. The gain would be down to 1 second recycling, possibly shorterning the life of the Xenon tube. I have not seen this kind of battery pack yet for SB-800. When internal low voltage power is used ( 4 x AA), the 3 pin input to the socket on the SB-800 is cut off. I guess that could be possible if the left pin, the mosty recessed pin in the socket would accept high voltage, in addition to internal, or external low voltage on one of the other pin (out of the 3). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 When I use 2300 mAh NiMH rechargables, with the 5th battery option, I can get 3-second recycle times after full-power blasts from the SB-800. I think that is a good alternative since there is no additional power cord from the flash to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric friedemann Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 "Why don't you just consider external battery packs from Nikon, as described in the SB-800 Instruction Manual." Because Nikon's packs are totally lame, a waste of money and do not markedly improve recycling times. They aren't high voltage packs. "It is not clear if SB-800 would take direct high voltage input, like the older Nikon flashes(.)" Huh? Of course the SB-800 takes direct high voltage input, just like the older Nikon flashes. Attached is an image from a kit B&H sells that includes a Quantum Turbo and the correct Quantum HV connecting cord- designated CKE. Just as on older Nikon flashes (e.g. the SB-28 or SB-80DX) the HV outlet is on the front of the flash just below the red AF illuminator. In the image, the outlet is plugged with a little cap with "Nikon" on it.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_skomial Posted June 29, 2005 Share Posted June 29, 2005 Thanks Eric, and forgive my ignorance. This is recommended for SB-800. The only problem with it is the cost. The Turbo 2x2 battery with the cable runs in $500, or more. For this price one could certainly add 1 or 2 SB-800 / SB-600 and use a multi iTTL remote wireless lighting setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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