Angulon 6.8/65 on a Horseman Board

Discussion in 'Large Format' started by george_daneliya, Jul 21, 2013.

  1. I'm trying to find a solution for mounting my 6.8/65 Angulon on a horseman lens board for using it on 45FA. As you know, the lens comes in a tiny compur shutter, which does not have a socket for a cable realease - the shutter has only a release lever... This makes any long-time exposures problematic. On old linhof boards (like those used on baby technikas III/IV) there was a kind of "superstructure" for such release mounted on a board itself. Seems, I have to build something similar for a horseman board. But, as always, it is beter to learn from others experience :) So, how did you guys resolve this problem?
     
  2. What kind of shutter is this? I'm probably ignorant, but I've never seen a Compur 00 shutter without a cable release socket. I have a two of them, both which take a cable release. (The well-known problem with the 00 shutter, however, is that it has no way of holding the shutter open except using a locking cable release.)
    So this means one alternative would be to find a different Compur 00 shutter.
    Second pedantic comment. You know this lens will barely cover a 6 x 9cm frame, yes? Not my business, maybe you're planning to use it with rollfilm. The old Angulons have their limitations, although they are definitely compact and inexpensive.
     
  3. Dave, I have a Syncho Compur #00 with no cable release socket. It had a 58/5.6 Grandagon in it. This combination was supplied for the Graflex XL (cable release holder on the front of the focusing helical) and for some 6x9 Linhof or other. For the Linhof application the lens was engraved Techikon.
    But you're right, most #00 Compurs have cable releases.
    The Prontor Press #00 is another alternative.
    George, I've seen a number of 65/6.8 Angulons on offer, none in shutters without a cable release socket. Might your #00 have a cable release socket with a screw in it?
     
  4. I have an older Compur 00 that has no cable release socket, possibly from the late 1930's or early 1940's. I bought it for parts but ended up repairing it and putting my 90 f8 Super Angulon in it. I mounted it on a wooden lens board I made for my Super Speed Graphic. I attached a piece of vinyl covered wire tie, the kind ships with new equipment, to the release lever like a solenoid link would be and put a #2 screw in line with the release a little lower on the board. The wire tie is just firm enough to hold the shape it is formed to. I trip the shutter on B and hook to the screw before releasing.
     
  5. Thank you, guys!
    Dave, yes, I'm aware that the lens only covers 6x9, and, yes, I'm using it with the rollfilm back. I rarely use wideangles, so want to have a compact lens, which does not take a lot of space. Besides, 65mm Angulon allows 45FA to close with it, which is a plus. BTW, within its limitations my Angulon is quite a good performer.
    Dan, I checked it once again - no plugged release socket on the shutter. The lens was Linhof selected and came on a board for Linhof Baby Technika IV (on which camera I used the lens before).
    Charles, that's an interesting system. Does it works reliably with long, but no so long exposure time (like 1/5 - 2 sec.)? I guess it should work OK for really long exposures.
     
  6. Here goes a photo of my Angulon
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  7. And of the board, on which it was originally mounted
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  8. I haven't shot with it yet but it did stay open long enough to do all the focusing necessary to make a cam for the Super Speed which had it open for an hour or or so.
     
  9. Thanks all. I had not known such a shutter existed.
     
  10. George, I forgot and put it away open on B. May have been open for a few weeks. :D
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  11. Charles, your method would definately work for long exposures (like 30 seconds, 1 minute, etc...), or for focusing on the ground glass. But it should introduce plenty of camera shake for exposure times under several seconds...
    So, the solution for a cable release attachment is still required. Probably I will just unscrew that attachment from the Linhof board (see the photo above) - it is kept on the place by two small screws - and glue it on the Horseman board together with some spacer to maintian necessary height from the board (Linhof board is recessed, while the Horseman one is not). But still hope to find a more elegant solution.
     
  12. Yes, 2 to 29 seconds requires a steady hand and shutter finger. Basically I was just looking to focus. I may refine it someday.

    I would use longer screws and drill the lens board accordingly. Compur used a similar cable block attached to the shutter body on some Compur Rapid shutters.
     

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