artedetimo Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 I was wondering if anyone has ever seen/used something this large, or if they have attempted to make one. I am starting to do some research on making a 16x20 maybe including making the lens too if I can't find a cheap way of producing one some other way. Does anyone have any pointers or advice where to start my advennture? I have the "Primitive Photography" book and have looked through that. It seems like the old singlet and doublet lenes aren't too hard to make if you can find the glass. Anyone have any experience with making lenses? Lastly, if building the lens ends up being too difficult does anyone know of a lens that has the coverage, or can be modified to get that sort of coverage? I think a normal length is 650mm, right? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicaglow Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 Look into a process lens. What you use for a shutter, I don't know. But get familiar with the printing process surplus people and I think you'll be on track. Have you figured out how to load the film? Another thought: I think Polaroid had a 20x24"? camera. Do a search for it and see what lens it uses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gene_e._mccluney Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 There are plenty of lenses in the Graphic Arts world that easily cover 16x20. One of the most popular names would be the Red Dot Artar in appropriate focal length, but there are plenty more. These are all barrel mount lenses that would need to be used with a front- mount or behind the lens mount shutter such as a Packard type shutter. No sense in trying to reinvent the wheel, when there are plenty of suitable lenses out there, and in fact there are several wood field camera makers that have, and will make for you a 16x20 camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big toys are better Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 Nikon made some wide angle process lenses such as the 260mm which ought to cover that format, and I believe the longer Fuji (600mm) and Schneider offerings (550mm & 1100mm) will also do so. Only the latter two brands are available still made as well as available in shutter, but the Dagors ought to be available as well in shutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucecahn Posted April 28, 2007 Share Posted April 28, 2007 I worked with a 16x20 for several years. The 480 Schneider (or the 360 Schneider--360 Rodenstock does not cover it) is my first choice for this format. But yes, there are a lot of old barrel lenses which will cover. You might also consider pinhole. Great format. I had to give it up because of a bad back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donald_hutton Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 I'd be extremely careful with recommending a Schneider Apo Symmar 480mm. The image circle for both the current 480 L and the older plain 480 Apo Symmar is given by Schneider as 500mm at f22. I owned a 480 Apo Symmar for a while (note, not the Apo Symmar L; the older model). It didn't cover 12x20 let alone 16x20 because of mechanical vignetting - didn't matter how far down you stopped it. I'd be extremely surprized based on the similarity in specs between the two lenses if the newer model had greater coverage. First hand - the 480 Apo Symmar does not come close to covering 16x20... And I don't sell lenses for a living either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prifti Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 I built a 16x20 wet plate camera around a $25 e-bay bellows from a process camera. I came up with the design by looking at MANY 19th and 20th Century camera designs online, and picking and choosing elements that both worked and that I could fabricate based on my skills and limited materials. I've bought 2 old rapid rectilinear lenses on e- bay for under $250 which cover and work well with this process...<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artedetimo Posted May 13, 2007 Author Share Posted May 13, 2007 Hey, thanks. This gives me some things to chew on. Looks like there are good lenes to be had out there for a reasonable price and making the camera seems doable, so its just a matter of working out some details and tracking down some of those process pieces I will need. I think this will be my summer project. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erie_patsellis Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Timo, how is this project coming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artedetimo Posted December 16, 2007 Author Share Posted December 16, 2007 Picked up an Old Tessar lens 760mm that should cover anything. No shutter yet. Figured out a focusing mechanism. Lead screw and nut which I [icked up cheap. Working on the plans still, and deciding what sorts of movements I will want. Almost there with design for film holder. Front standard is giving me some trouble, though. Choice of materials is going to be very important with the huge glass on the front. And most importantly, I have access to a wood and metal shop that I will be able to use until May which should give me enough time to put this together. I figure a month or two will just be used to refine my precision milling ability and prototyping some of the parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erie_patsellis Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Timo, I've been working on a 20x24 off and on the last few months, I used a leadscrew and nut, as well as full extension drawer slides laid down for the focusing stage. The camera design is (very loosely) based on the philips model, with far less precision. erie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artedetimo Posted March 24, 2008 Author Share Posted March 24, 2008 I set up a blog now that I am really moving on this. Making progress, and have a working design. The film holders have really been the most challenging thing to figure out. I started with them to really fine tune my wood working skill and so I have a shape and size to build the camera around. Hoping to share all my thoughts on design and building on the blog. Feel free to look and respond to things I am doing. http://cameras.artedetimo.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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