127 Backing Paper

<p>Hi everyone. I have received several emails from some members of Photo.net that have asked me about 127 backing paper. The 120 4.5x6 markings are really close to the 127 4x4 markings, in fact they are only 1/2 inch different at the #12 exposure with the 120 being longer. The problem is that the 4.5x6 on the 120 are on the top and the 4x4 127 markings are on the bottom. You can use them to remark your 120 cut down paper if you remark before respooling.<br>

If you are adventurous you can make your own paper with <a href="http://www.cartooncolour.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=302">cartoon paper</a>. This link I found while researching 116 and 616 film.<br>

Here are the dimensions that I have measured off of an Efke paper. The Efke is just a bit shorter than the what I found at this informative <a href="http://www.realtime.net/~donday/photo/paper-lengths.html">site by Don Day</a>.<br>

Total length (Efke) 42 1/2 inches end to end. Each end is tapered. The paper is 1 7/8 inches wide.<br>

End of start taper to start arrows 5 3/4 inches, the area that the film is taped to is 1/2 inch wide and starts at 11 inches.<br>

For 4x4 exposures, the numbers are along the bottom edge if you have the starting taper to your left and work left to right and are centered at 3/8 off the bottom.<br>

#1 is 13 1/8 inches from the end of the starting taper.<br>

#2 is 15 inches.<br>

#3 is 16 13/16 inches.<br>

#4 is 18 11/16 inches.<br>

#5 is 20 9/16 inches.<br>

#6 is 22 3/8 inches.<br>

#7 is 24 1/4 inches.<br>

#8 is 26 1/8 inches.<br>

#9 is 27 15/16 inches.<br>

#10 is 29 13/16 inches.<br>

#11 is 31 5/8 inches.<br>

#12 is 33 1/2 inches.<br>

For 8 exposures at 4x6.5 there are 3 sets of numbers. The top set is centered 1 3/16 off the bottom edge, the center set is centered at 15/16 off the bottom edge and the bottom set is centered 11/16 off the bottom edge.<br>

#1 is 13 9/16 inches from the end of the start taper.<br>

#2 is 16 5/16 inches.<br>

#3 is 19 1/16 inches.<br>

#4 is 21 13/16 inches.<br>

#5 is 24 9/16 inches.<br>

#6 is 27 5/16 inches.<br>

#7 is 30 1/16 inches.<br>

#8 is 32 13/16 inches.<br>

Each number is preceded by 3 dots or squares to let you know the number is close, the Efke squares are 3/8 inch apart and precede the number by 3/8 of an inch.<br>

The stop line is from 35 3/4 to 35 7/8 from the starting taper.<br>

The total length of the taper is 1 3/16 inches long. The tapers start as a rectangle that is 3/4 tall and 3/8 long. From the 3/8 inch edge it tapers to the full width at the end point at 1 3/16.</p><div></div>

<p>The reason that I post this is because in recent years there have been several very informative sites on older films that were maintained by individuals that have gone down. Information that might have been of use to someone later in the future. These sites were hosted by groups that have folded like AOL home pages, to name one. </p>

 

<p> 16 exposure TOY candid camera<br>

where the window is in the middle.<br>

it was my thought that if I cut 120 paper properly, I could make the numbers for 120-16 exposure line up.<br>

since I cannot afford 120 film., I would either use 35mm (11mm too narrow) or cxut down 120 film.<br>

Plan B would be to use a bare 35mm plastic spool and block the window entirely<br>

this way I coiuld use color negative film<br>

and get it developed easily.<br>

I am thinking that a small TY-Rap end securely taped somewhere would serve as<br>

a "clicker" so I would nnow when the film had been advanced enough.<br>

the 16 exposure cameras have a frame size of 1 1/8 wide.<br>

a 35mm frame is 8 sprocket holes and is 36mm long. 1 1/2" approx<br>

so 7 "clicks" would be a safe number.</p>

<p>What we go thru just to use an old camera.</p>

<p>If you want to use the 120 paper and numbers for the 4x4 format on 127 you could reverse the number sequence and go backwards. It looks like it is close to the same distance off the edge of the paper. You would not be able to rely on the dots to tell you when you are close to the number as they would be following the number and not proceeding.</p>

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<p>Using the 6x6 numbers from the 120 is not an option when trying to use them for the 8 exposures of 4x6.5 or 16 exposures of 4x3. See the photo. When you get to exposure 8 on the 127 you are 1 5/8 of an inch past the #8 on the 120 paper. So if you use the 120 numbering system you will more than likely end up with overlap on your negatives. The 1/4-20 nuts in the picture are to help hold the 127 paper down.</p><div></div>