rodrigo_tostes_malta Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 My vote is to photo.net. I use the medium format forum a lot with no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholas_f._jones Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 Another vote for photo.net provided that LF remains, as MF is now, a distinct category. I doubt that many of us want to have to wade through threads with no bearing on our LF pursuits, whatever their merit or interest. Also, as things stand with the present forum, even the most ambiguous thread title may be assumed to be connected somehow with LF; but if lists are combined, we'd have to start being a lot more specific in respect to both title and content. Somehow, too, I hope, the archives will remain easily accessible. Nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny burk www.dannyburk. Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 Another vote for photo.net as a separate entity, such as the MF forum. NO NO NO to Yahoo!! I agree that it's a major priority to keep the present archived threads easily accessible. <p> Danny Burk www.dannyburk.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed b. Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 I am likewise trying to negotiate with Photo.net to move the Alternative Process, Film & Developing, and Printing & Finishing forums to their server. I don't see any other valid option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enrique_vila1 Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 Hi all, <p> I think I can offer some help to maintain the phorum as follows: <p> 1.- I own a small web hosting company that could provide hosting space for the forum, the page or both. <p> 2.- I could help installing ACS or whatever software you would like to maintain the phorum in. <p> This board is so fabulous that it would be a chame to let it die. <p> Please let me know what I can help with... <p> Enrique Vila.-evilap@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal_santamaura Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 Tuan, <p> Top choice: an independent server running the current software (not just importing existing data). Ask us for money if necessary. <p> Second choice: separate forum under photo.net, as long as copyright issues are resolved. This option is less desirable because of the increasingly commercial nature of photo.net. Also, MFD seems to attract a larger number of less professional/civil posters than this forum does. Don't know whether that was the case before its association with photo.net, so can't say if there's a causal relationship or even a correlation. <p> Please not Yahoo or any other similar system. <p> Thanks for everything you've done so far, and thanks to Phil for having made greenspun.com available until now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_mahoney Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 A LF forum already exists on photo.net, I'd guess any arrangement with them may involve uniting the two forums, check here to see content: <p> http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-one-category? topic_id=23&category=Large%20Format Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toeknee Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 Although I haven't been a regular contributor to this forum, my vote (if valid) would be to go to photo.net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik4 Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 My vote for porting it over to photo.net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal_santamaura Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 Michael, the url you posted takes one to a message saying the forum cannot be found. It affers a link to a list of photo.net forums and suggests looking there. I did so, and there's no LF forum listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_parsons1 Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 To the user, the MF digest on photo.net appears very much like this forum. (More so like it than any of the other forum formats I've seen - almost identical in use, except you need to log in to post.) Therefore I'd vote for that route (as a separate forum - NOT as part of the general photo.net discussion!). <p> Cheers, and thanks to Tuan for the great job he does! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychophoto Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 My vote would be for photo.net over yahoo any day of the week. That said, I think an independent server would be the best idea, even if it meant having to periodically ask users for a little monetary support- I'd much rather throw in $10.00 every now and then than see this forum lost. Another idea for funding if an independent server is chosen would be to accept sponsorship from a few LF-Related companies. Who knows, maybe someone like Sinar Bron would help fund things if they were allowed to put ads at the end of threads like Phil Greenspun's articles are appearing right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlabrosse Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 First Choice: Move this forum in it's present configuration to a new server. It looks like we have a couple of offers already. <p> Second Choice: Go over to Photo.net (can we move the archives too?). <p> Please don't: Go to Yahoo. The interface is awful. <p> Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_sarsgard1 Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 photo.net is ok as long as we don't have to get past the moderator hurdle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven_seitz Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 This forum has been a tremendous help to me and I don't want to see it die either. Yahoo is in the dark ages when it comes to usability, and so are most other similar options as far as I can tell. This software is terrific! Seems to me the best option would be to go with photo.net unless one of the other offers appears to be solid for the long run. The Web is very unpredictable on its best day re: providers and servers staying in place, but we should find as reliable a home as possible.I would not hesitate to pay a fee for the service if need be. For something of this high quality we should be willing to pay to find a solid and reliable home we can depend on. Many of the posts above have talked about the quality as the reason they use the forum - anything good costs money and takes time and effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin_kolosky Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 seems like nobody asks the question as to why this site cannot be maintained. Is it because of cost. then how about everyone who likes to use this site pitching in to pay for it. long ago I learned that there is no such thing as a free lunch. Where do I send the check? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james_chinn2 Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 I would just add to previous posts about contributions. The only problem is do you charge an access fee? If so I think you eliminate the most important audience and that is the newbie to large format. This site is invaluable for answering the many technical questions about the format, but I fear that charging a mandatory fee, unless a small one time registration fee would discourage those that get the most use out of the forum. Remember, the more people that use the format, the better it is for maintaining availability of film, papers etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_mahoney Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 Sal, there is a LF forum on photo.net, but the link I posted is not valid, it must be one of those addresses that changes with each post. Try going to the main Photo.net page, then "community", "discussion forums", "general photography", then scroll down the page to the large format section. I'll try the link again, but if it's no good, just follow the above. http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-one-category? topic_id=23&category=Large%20Format Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal_santamaura Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 I just posted a suggestion to Steve Simmons on his current thread: <p> http://hv.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=007EUq <p> Why not have View Camera's Web site host this forum (software and data). Perfect synergy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill_zelinski Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 First, I want to really thank Phil from the bottom of my heart. I would be a much poorer photographer if I had never found this forum. Thanks also to just about everyone on here for thier help, assistance and for their generosity and willingness to share with others what they know. A big round of applause for all of you. I sincerely hope its not time to turn out the lights yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal_santamaura Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 Michael, now I see what you're referring to. That's only a category (currently holds 280 posts total) within the general photography forum. I suspect that it relies on a poster selecting that category when asking a question. Not even close to the value, depth and breadth of what you find here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 Philip and I talked about this briefly over Thanksgiving when he was here. I know there are a lot of people who hate to think that they might be 'contaminated" by contact with small format, or ven (go forbid) amateur photographers, even neophytes. well you can choose not to have the "unifed or any other photo.net forum come up on your screen. Frankly I think sticking with this tried and true interface and model is the best idea so I think he is right in his intent to pull this forum into the photo.net sphere. He tells me that he will be taking a more hands on approach to photo.net now that he has finished with the Ars Digita mess and is returning from his sabbatical, the previous discussion was what, a year and a half ago? As we all know circumstances have changed.<P>To make it clear: ifyou go to a Yahoo! format, I think a lot of us are going to lose interest in participating pretty quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric_pederson Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 It seems like a proper poll may be in order if you don't get enough interest in someone hosting off of photo.net. My personal concern (shared by one other so far) is that I would like to continue to download to Palm OS. If there are only two of us doing that, ignore us, but there might be many. This is the sort of question which only a systematic poll could evaluate properly.So, pursue other offers to keep this format first. If that doesn't pan out, then post another query asking what questions to ask on a poll and then create a poll of needs/preferences. I've been with this gang for a bit over a year now and I love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howard_slavitt2 Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 I vote for Photo.net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted December 6, 2001 Share Posted December 6, 2001 Luong, What is the average volume of daily traffic on this site for the combination of the homepage and the Q&A forum? Do you know what the peaks are as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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