Fuji X100F raw files with PS5

I know there is a dilemma with this combination… but wondering if there is a “work around” for opening the .raf files from the new X100F. My PS5's Adobe Camera Raw version 6.7 was the last update that Adobe provided for that version of PS. According to the Adobe website, ACR version 9.9 is required to open the Fuji .raf files. Is there any way around this if I am not inclined to update my PS5?

Thanks!

Did you try the free Adobe DNG converter?

System requirements on that for Mac are OS10.10 to 10.12… I am using 10.8. It is downloading though… we'll see if it works if it installs.

Nope… can't install it with OS10.8… Any other ideas?

New camera, old PS. Time to update...

One workaround: open the .RAF file in the free Fuji Raw File Converter 2, save a .TIF file and open it in PS.

I think it's iniquitous that Adobe don't make camera raw updates backwardly compatible. I know it's possible because I once fooled PS5 into accepting an "incompatible" update. It involved renaming one of the updated PS8 filter files and throwing it into the PS plugin directory. I don't remember exactly what I did now, but I remember it didn't require much serious hacking.

 

However, the above suggestion of using the supplied camera software to export as a high-bit TIFF or DNG is probably easier if you only have a few files to deal with.

Edited May 8, 2017 by rodeo_joe|1

I despise upgrading from something that already works well for me… Now that that's off my chest, I will have to do both an OS upgrade as well as a Photoshop upgrade, from a PS5 license to the PS CC. Anyone out there give me a heads up on what to expect from CC over the traditional single license versions? Not PS functionality and feature changes per se, but rather how one gets the software, etc. I hope you don't have to be constantly connected to the internet in order to work in Photoshop… Any opinions/advice would be appreciated on this transition.

I despise upgrading from something that already works well for me… Now that that's off my chest, I will have to do both an OS upgrade as well as a Photoshop upgrade, from a PS5 license to the PS CC. Anyone out there give me a heads up on what to expect from CC over the traditional single license versions? Not PS functionality and feature changes per se, but rather how one gets the software, etc. I hope you don't have to be constantly connected to the internet in order to work in Photoshop… Any opinions/advice would be appreciated on this transition.

Seems like its not working to well for you now though and unfortunately that is as it is. As far as updates etc on CC, you get an Adobe downloader and it alerts you when any upgrade of the programs your registered for comes in. Pretty simple. I know a lot of people don't like the current set-up, but I've found it to be a good system and CC and lightroom are great.

The easiest and least expensive option is just update the OS so you can use the current DNG converter OR see if you can find an older one that runs on your older OS that still supports your camera.

The easiest and least expensive option is just update the OS so you can use the current DNG converter OR see if you can find an older one that runs on your older OS that still supports your camera.

Yes… that would be the most straight forward route. Just as with any major OS update, I have to test as to whether all of my major softwares get along with it.

 

But a shout out to Uhooru: You called my bluff big time my friend! You're right, if I go with one of these Fuji cameras with .raf files, it won't be working well for me as I proclaimed… Right now I'm not a Fuji user.

Seems like its not working to well for you now though and unfortunately that is as it is. As far as updates etc on CC, you get an Adobe downloader and it alerts you when any upgrade of the programs your registered for comes in. Pretty simple. I know a lot of people don't like the current set-up, but I've found it to be a good system and CC and lightroom are great.

Thanks… see post above;-)

 

So CC/Lightroom act exactly as if you had the software on board, which I assume you do… you're not operating from a cloud or anything like that (except for the updates they provide etc.). Can you refuse or pick and choose update features if you want to keep the software as is?

Thanks… see post above;-)

 

So CC/Lightroom act exactly as if you had the software on board, which I assume you do… you're not operating from a cloud or anything like that (except for the updates they provide etc.). Can you refuse or pick and choose update features if you want to keep the software as is?

Yeah its on your computer but I think if you opt out and stop paying maybe it deactivates. I think the new downloads are all or nothing, you don't pick out features also, I've never chosen not to download so I'm not sure what happens if you choose not to. You might want to contact Adobe for some of your questions on functionality.

Yeah its on your computer but I think if you opt out and stop paying maybe it deactivates.

IF you stop the LR CC subscription Develop and Maps module cease to operate. The other modules will still function.

Or you could buy Lightroom 6 outright $143. But if these new software's are not compatible with your computer you are stuffed.

This is a lesson to all when buying new generation cameras.

I think it's iniquitous that Adobe don't make camera raw updates backwardly compatible.

I think it's iniquitous that camera companies make a new raw format with every new camera that’s only a small difference from the last, (unlike the JPEG), forcing ALL 3rd party raw software manufacturers to update their software while you wait. At least Adobe doesn’t force an upgrade by providing the free DNG converter.

IF you stop the LR CC subscription Develop and Maps module cease to operate. The other modules will still function.

Can you clarify this? I'm primarily a PS user… LR is not as relevant for my needs.

I think it's iniquitous that camera companies make a new raw format with every new camera that’s only a small difference from the last, (unlike the JPEG), forcing ALL 3rd party raw software manufacturers to update their software while you wait. At least Adobe doesn’t force an upgrade by providing the free DNG converter.

I learned a new word today: “iniquitous”… thanks!

IF you stop the LR CC subscription Develop and Maps module cease to operate. The other modules will still function.

Thanks for the clarification.

"forcing ALL 3rd party raw software manufacturers to update their software" - Not quite true. The UFRaw module for GIMP is totally camera agnostic and works with almost any RAW format made. Adobe could easily do the same, by basically ignoring the camera type header of the file.

 

In fact, hacking a raw file to change a newer camera model name for an older one usually fools the "outdated" Adobe filter into decoding it perfectly.

 

However, there's probably an issue with the eccentric Xtrans filter patterning used by Fuji (non-Bayer). There seems to be no sensible way to decode it if Fuji's disclosed pattern layout is to be believed. Which I personally don't. " ... uses a 6 x 6 photosite cluster.." - yeah right! So each pixel step only shows 1/36th change in colour shade? Highly believable! What's really going on Fuji?

 

It wouldn't be the first time that Fuji has distorted the truth about their sensor layout or true pixel numbers.

Edited May 11, 2017 by rodeo_joe|1

Can you clarify this? I'm primarily a PS user… LR is not as relevant for my needs.

With Photoshop, end subscription, the entire enchilada stops working. Lightroom is a bit different as described above.

"forcing ALL 3rd party raw software manufacturers to update their software" - Not quite true. The UFRaw module for GIMP is totally camera agnostic and works with almost any RAW format made. Adobe could easily do the same, by basically ignoring the camera type header of the file..

Of course it’s true; any new proprietary raw has to be understood and updated. That doesn’t mean it forces an upgrade on the end user, a company can provide free updates for camera support as long as they wish. But the facts remain: every new proprietary raw has to be provided to the software company. They have to hack the format and update their products to understand the new format. Unlike the JPEG every such camera provides. This continuous updating costs someone money! And time.

Yes, Adobe could update all their software, dating back to the first $99 ACR for Photoshop 7 but they do not. Because they provide another path; the free DNG converter.