iPad Transfer.

<p>I am trying to use Photosmith on my new iPad and so wanted to upload photos to it from my CF card. I got the camera connection kit and tried connecting my Canon 5D and it said camera is not compatible.<br>

Then i tried connecting an old Sandisk card reader that works on USB and while it is reading it is slow as molasses. It is more than 2 hours and it only uploaded some 100 pics less than 2GB of my 4GB card.</p>

<p>I wanted to find out what is the easiest way to get photos into iPad for working with photosmith?<br>

If you are using an external card reader to connect to your iPad which reader do you prefer for speed?<br>

Does the camera connection kit work with the newer DSLRs from Canon?</p>

<p>The camera connection kit is just a hardware interface — a card reader that has the right connector to plug into an iPad. It doesn't have the kind of compatibility problems that you're talking about. </p>

<p>Your problem appears to be a <em>software</em> problem. You talking about the new Canon 5d MkIII? I don't have one, but (as you perhaps don't know) it may take a little while after the release of a new camera for different operating systems and different applications or apps to support it. This problem generally occurs with raw files. You could try shooting jpeg (instead of raw) and see if the iPad can read the jpegs. I bet it can.</p>

<p>If you need support for raw, you'll just have to watch for updates from Apple. Adobe provides raw support for particular camera models through its applications; Apple does it through its operating system. On an iOS device (iPad, iPhone) I don't know for sure but I think that most of the apps rely on the operating system to manage the different file formats. </p>

<p>I don't know the transfer speed of the camera connection kit or the iPad's USB port, or how it compares say to the USB 2 port on my iMac. Keep in mind that 4 GB of photos (or 2 GB of photos) is a pretty big bite for an iPad, which may have a total storage capacity of only 16 or 32 or 64GB.</p>

<p>Will</p>

<p>Ouch. Assuming your connection speed numbers are correct, that implies a download speed of ~ 277k/sec (!) Considering that even my slowest cards DL on the leptop or PC at <strong><em>54x</em><em></em></strong> as fast, that's a problem!</p>

<p>I don't know how fast the onboard memory is on your Ipad, nor what the memory architecture looks like, but since it holds your iOS, and all your apps, it's read/write time may be severly impacted by what <em>else</em> you are doing at the same time. </p>

<p>For example, I wonder if it would speed up if you rebooted it, and ran the device w/ only the download running?</p>

 

<p>I just copy the photos to my computer, then copy to my ITunes sync folder for photos, and then have the IPAD sync from the computer. I only use the IPAD for display purposes generally speaking.</p>

<p>I have uploaded images from my camera with the adapter for USB and my transfer speeds were about the same as my PC. I have done RAW and JPG. You may also want to upgrade to IOS 5.1 as that may have camera support. In any case, avoid RAW images and use JPG instead as JPG is easily supported by all the apps.</p>

<p>The use of a card reader with the camera connection kit is a bit of a hit and miss operation. I use the original iPad 64 Gb, first it recognised a card reader, after updating iOS it didn't recognise the reader anymore, or gave an error message. I have used the iPad as a backup device, and for judging the photos I took, together with Photosmith. Connected the camera through a usb cable to the camera connection kit. Transfer took some time, I don't recall the details but I think something like 45 mins for 3 to 4 Gb. The iPad recognised the RAW files from the 5D-I.</p>

<p>I figured out the problem for my slow connection - The USB drive i used was based on USB1.1 spec. Not the iPAD issue.<br>

I was using 5D - the original. I understand new version issues. It is not the raw files that is the problem. It is the camera that is the problem. Tested with 1GB card having one picture on it in JPG format and still didnt work. This is surely iPad support issue. I dont expect 5D to work if it didnt work now.<br>

I am thinking of buying a card reader anyway since Lightroom 4 now all of a sudden doesnt read from my 5D camera anymore! (Lightroom 3 did, and it is a bug that others are facing as well)<br>

That is why i am asking which card reader should i invest in. From the reading yesterday that UDMA cards are not supported on IPAD without a powered USB reader. I am torn between a simple card reader vs the Hard Drive for Ipad from Sanho to cover this situation.</p>

<p>As I understand it the iPad creates a native resolution file from your JPEG or RAW import. So if you are importing RAW only that could slow it down - as opposed to JPEG+RAW where the iPad has the JPEG to work from.<br>

I use an old Kodak CF reader, USB1, and it imports RAW 5D files in 15sec.</p>

<p>Hope this helps.</p>

<p>I did Raw + JPG. It even says that in the Photos app :(</p>

<p>>I wanted to find out what is the easiest way to get photos into iPad<br>

I just checked, the 5D RAW files import in under 15 sec. but when importing RAW+JPEG it takes 23 sec. That should mean 1/2 hour for 100 right?<br>

I am using Sandisk Ultra 2 and San disk Extreme 3 cards. Your 5D will not benefit from cards that are faster than class 6. A faster (i.e. UDMA) card would be pointless.<br>

Unless you do not have access to a computer first why not just place the JPEG (only) files on a card in a folder named DCIM then connect the card+reader to the iPad?<br>

>Does the camera connection kit work with the newer DSLRs from Canon?<br>

The kit is hardware, the newest cameras would most likely need a newest iPads/iOS. You really should be using a reader not connecting the camera anyway. And a faster reader would still bog down because the iPad needs to create it's own native resolution image file.<br>

> for working with photosmith<br>

This is for images that display on the iPad only <strong>as I understand it</strong>. Your original files remain untouched. In other words you will not benefit from any image adjustments other than for iPad viewing.</p>

 

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<p>Photosmith makes interaction with lightroom easy with iPad integration.<br>

I used the application yesterday to rate my photos and now i am planning to sync with lightroom today to see how the process works. Currently photosmith does not take the images from lightroom. I am hoping that it will be implemented soon - v2 is supposed to have two way communication and collection publisher. So when that is out i am assuming i wont be loading the images to the ipad first in general but to my computer first as i have been doing. I guess i have to a wait a bit for all these things to work properly. New camera (5D3), New iPad, New Lightroom 4, New Apps - Photosmith - means i am trying to figure it all out and see what works best and waiting patiently for things to get better:)</p>

 

<p>If you have not, you might want to check out these documents from Apple:</p>

<p><a href="http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4106">iPad: Using iPad Camera Connector with unsupported USB devices</a><br>

and<br>

<a href="http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4101">iPad: Using the iPad Camera Connection Kit</a></p>

<p>The Camera Connection Kit may not work with most USB CF readers, as they draw too much power. I used it over the summer with my 7D, and always had the camera connected to the iPad (2), so only the data goes on the USB. Power for the card is handled by the camera in that case.</p>

<p>It is also possible that the original 5D is missing some of the protocols Apple is looking for. The Digital Photography arena has been changing rapidly in the past few years!</p>

<p>I have just got an ipad2 and wanted to transfer jpg images from my pc (XP) without using the totally illogical itunes. So I load up my SD card with jpgs and plug it in to the ipad with a ipad reader - nothing! Thought my card or cheap reader was at fault so I plugged in a second card from my Canon 60D and bingo there were the camera jpg images.<br>

Tried to add more image files from the pc to the camera SD card and read these in the ipad. Only the camera images were viewable!<br>

I reformatted the camera SD card in the camera and with no images on the card I plugged it into the ipad and it showed that the images were still there!<br>

I came to the conclusion that Apple work completely differently from Windows and that I am going to have to do is go on a course or something to get the best from my ipad.<br>

What is the best way to get images from the pc to an ipad?</p>

<p>Jeff - try puting the images files in a folder named DCIM on the flash card. The iPad should then see them</p>

Wow,

 

Finally a topic where I actually get to provide some input ! (usually I am the one needing the assistance)

 

I am at the very cusp of issues with the iPad, Lightroom, iTunes, and the main bugbear.... Photosmith.

 

I bought my iPad about 2 weeks ago for Photography and that purchase was partly driven from what I read about

Photosmith.

 

Now, what is Photosmith..... It is an app that you use while out with your camera, in the field, to *rate* and *categorise*

etc your pictures just like Lightroom (but away from your computer) so that when you get back to your office and

computer you can apply those ratings to the files you put over from your iPad to your computer for further working on in

Lightroom.

 

It's meant to give you the opportunity to work on your images during 'dead' time......

 

Yesterday I contacted support of Photosmith because I was finding that to put the 47 raw images (12mp) from my iPad

into Lightroom via my computer and cable took 1hr.......

 

I was then shocked to learn from the cofounder of the Photosmith app that even if your iPad is connected to your

computer via the cable, it isn't syncing your files via the cable but is transferring them across and syncing them

WIRELESSLY.

 

I was informed that this is an Apple restriction (told this by Photosmith)........

 

The problem I'm currently having is that to put my images that have had the Photosmith treatment onto my computer so

that the ratings, stars, flag colours are also transferred, well..... currently I don't have a way because in my case

Lightroom doesn't import directly from my iPad very easily (it hangs for a very long time when I connect it to the computer

and try to import the photos from it as if it's a hard disk ).

 

Photosmith are aware of this problem and I'm waiting for them to get back to me.

 

So, for me, right now, I'm contemplating two things........

 

1) returning Photosmith back and getting a refund

 

2) sending back my iPad and getting a refund.

 

Because in my experience of iPad so far, is that it's a wonderful, beautiful little flat slim metallic marvel, but Apple are

extremely strict on how it communicates when connected with your computer. They REALLY want you to use iTunes for

that and not much else.

 

That's kinda okay if iTunes works Perfectly every time....... but it doesn't. Yesterday I wanted to transfer 7 photographs I

sifted down to from that 47 back upto my iPad into a new album to show off and itunes would only upload 6.

 

However, if you do use only iTunes to transfer your images to and fro between your computer and your iPad, any images that have been worked on in Photosmith will not have those changes carried over as well (which if you're using Photosmith for that purpose, defeats the very object of the exercise !)

 

That is the frustration I'm having with all of this and before all of this, my life was soooooo much simpler !

 

So, to the Original Poster of this thread, I'd say to please continue to do your research as thoroughly as you are doing, but I'm of the opinion that you may well solve your current problem only to find that you'll experience other limitations and restrictions later on.

 

Good luck,

 

Jez

<p>My initial reply was typed in via my iPad - since then I've been on to the Photosmith website (which I must say I find the layout a bit hard to find the info I'm looking for - maybe the reason I now have this problem).<br>

<br /> Here is their blurb.....<br>

<br /> "The sync process will start transferring over any new images, and applying the metadata (collections, keywords, stars, ratings, labels, EXIF). <strong>Everything is transferred over WiFi, so there’s no need to use iTunes or even plug your iPad in for the sync.</strong> Modern cameras take some pretty big pictures, so some files can get pretty large, and WiFi can get slow, so Photosmith will continue to transfer the images even if the iPad goes to sleep. (But not if you switch apps due to restrictions in the current iOS software )."<br>

<br /> So there you have it.....</p>