chinh_nguyen Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 <p>I have a design need to be sent to print use for local bridal magazine and they need the file to be in PDF CMYK color palette. I'm working on the element 6 and I cannot convert it please help. Thank you for any reply</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph_wisniewski Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 <p>You've reached an insurmountable impasse.</p> <ul> <li>No reputable magazine ever needs anyone to submit a CMYK file. CMYK is specific to their particular printing press.</li> <li>No one reputable doing design, or running a wedding or portrait photography business runs Elements.I don't know what your role in this is...</li> </ul> <p>So, there's a communication gulf that cannot be breached here. Both sides lack sufficient knowledge and skills to communicate effectively. Suggest finding a responsible, competent third party to mediate.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinh_nguyen Posted April 9, 2011 Author Share Posted April 9, 2011 <p>First of all I like to thank you for your vary comment but that is what happen here in this town, they ask when I upload the file so they can send it out for prints and that what they ask for CMYK file and I'm lost on that too if you ask me. Second, I disagree on your (No one reputable doing design, or running a wedding or portrait photography business runs Elements.I don't know what your role in this is...<br /> Joseph, before they invented the digital technology wedding photographer have any kind of photoshop or element to work on or is it just dark room alone. <br /> I know that the full version cs will do the job.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 <p>If they or their printer have a full version of Photoshop they can do the RGB to Specific CMYK conversion. There are literally millions of CMYK profiles as CMYK profiles are very dependent on the specific press, ink mix and paper being used and can change with heat and humidity changes. They need to take responsibility for the CMYK conversion unless they are willing to supply you with their profile and you can supply a match print to accompany your file delivered on a read only disk. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin-s Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 <p>Chinh,<br> you say: <em>"I have a design need to be sent to print"</em>.<br> Can you tell us, whether this is just an image or perhaps a page layout you prepared?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jens_g.r._benthien Posted April 9, 2011 Share Posted April 9, 2011 <p>You might try PhotoLine, it's a 64 bit image editor which handles full 48 bit color depth and can convert RGB to CMYK. Cost is 69 Euro.<br> Check it out here and download the demo: <strong><a href="http://www.pl32.com/">PhotoLine</a></strong><br> In addition I have written an article about PhotoLine in my <strong><a href="http://toyotadesigner.wordpress.com/2011/04/06/48-bit-or-16-bit-per-channel-image-editing-for-the-rest-of-us/">blog</a></strong> if you want to know the advantages of PhotoLine over Photoshop.</p> ------------------------------------------ Worry is like a rocking chair. It will give you something to do, but it won't get you anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinh_nguyen Posted April 9, 2011 Author Share Posted April 9, 2011 <p>guy and gal I'm so sorry to confuse you all, what I have is a collage of image </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_murren Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 <p>chinh nguyen: if your on osx, there is a free built in PDF color space converter. It's not fancy, not intuitive to use, but, free beats $70. Page 11 talks of the process, http://images.apple.com/pro/pdf/Color_Mgmt_inTiger.pdf </p> <p>If you have the full version of acrobat, it does it too, Tools menu, Print production, Convert colors.<br> Ask the magazine for the profile they'd like you to use (have them email it, but most likely it's SWOP Coated profile). </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patricklavoie Posted April 10, 2011 Share Posted April 10, 2011 <p>i agree with Joseph, and Ellis as even if you would be able with Element to produce CMYK.. you need to define a flavor for your CMYK.. what is the dot gain? it is a 1pass or 2 pass CMYK (2color or 4 color press.. i would imagine is a 4 color one))? is is sheet fed or web fed? what is the GCR / UCR? im sure it is a coated paper.. but can it be uncoated?</p> <p>As you see theres a lot of info needed to produce a good CMYK file.. and asking to provide a CMYK file without all the rest of the info is showing a lack of knowledge from the part of your magazine.. but dont worry, they are all pretty much in that field nation wide ; ) What they want is a US Web Coated Swop v2 CMYK conversion.. like any monkey can do (but seem like there monkey in house cant do) because they dont want to be held responsible if (and it will append ) s*** append during printing...</p> <p>So maybe you can get a Photoshop CS5 demo for now, open your RGB file, convert it to CMYK US Web Coated Swop v2 and save the file like this... as im sure that anyway, when they send the whole magazine to there server, the internal RIP will apply is own profile to the whole thing to produce film / digital file... so yes a double profiling will occur certainly making sure that all the supplied file have in the end the same *good* profile. Why start then by asking you to make a CMYK out of your file since they wont use it? ... welcome to the magazine printing world ; )</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinh_nguyen Posted April 11, 2011 Author Share Posted April 11, 2011 <p>much appreciate guy and gal, I went got a free trail cs and convert it to CMYK and thanks for the suggesting the Web Coated Swop v2 CMYK conversion. Oh, and Ian murren I did not know full version of Acrobat can do the job? I got the Adobe acrabat 9 pro. And once again thank you everyone for your positive input. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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