How can photography be thought as a Postmodern medium?

"the dumbest on the streets actually understand this stuff and see it as just a bunch of brainiacs asking a bunch of rhetorical questions where the answers are already known."

 

Very true, whether spoken in jest or not, Thomas.

"Very true,..."

 

Thanks!

Do as you do, think as you think, you are amazing

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Kevin. Thanks for reminding me about Barthes' "The Photographic Message." An essay worth rereading.

Jason, I do not know if I have read that. I was thinking of "Mythologie."

Spam is postmodern.

 

Loosing weight possibly also.

 

It wasn't there when Rubens painted.

 

Neither spam.

 

If you don't know about CoC, coma, focal length vs. angle of view,

 

jump in on photography.

 

If you don't know about the meta language of philosophy,

 

jump in on it,

 

and LOL.

 

Is this written simple enough or should I simplify more?

 

Professors are funny!

 

Derrida is a goog photographer,

 

Give him a camera and see what happens.

goog?

 

should be good.

 

LOL ;-)

Im doing the exact same essay at the moment. I was reading through all the jargen above and it began to swim above my head. Youv got to look at photography so dont get to bogged down with the theory.

Im looking at Sherrive Levine because she reproduced im ages by photographers such as walker evens. The postmodern buzz word if you like is REPRODUCTION - id also look in to 'is it plagurism' to reproduced anothers work and how is it postmodern.

Everyone on here has written such log winded and pompous answers that theyv really just lost the point and going to the the realm of the stupid. talking things over and over and getting further away from the answer.

Keep it simple, keep it what you know!

hope iv been of some help.

Here's a postmodern word - thinking! Try doing some of your own instead of taking the easy way out via the Internet. WHy do you caare what others think or say? WHY DON"T YOU STATE YOUR OWN POSITION? CHICKEN? AFRAID YOU MIGHT HAVE TO DEFEND YOUR IDEAS?

>>Here's a postmodern word - thinking!<<

 

Wouldnt "thinkingness" be more postmodern?

 

>>WHy do you caare what others think or say?<<

 

uGH . . . because we share a world together?

 

>>WHY DON"T YOU STATE YOUR OWN POSITION?<<

 

The person has shared a bit of his thinkingess so far, but the final version would be his Paper -- the thing he's trying to inform by flushing out the ideas here in this forum.

 

>>CHICKEN?<<

 

This is the rhetoric of fear.

 

>>AFRAID YOU MIGHT HAVE TO DEFEND YOUR IDEAS?<<

 

Do you see your own orientation to Discovery here? Is it fear of being found in error?

 

I think this kind of attitude toward intellectual exchange is shameful. This is a philosophy forum and here you are yelling at a person for having the good sense to put his question to others.

 

When you see the beauty of another view, when its truth speaks to you, when its order re-orders your own framework, you are then in a position to take responsibility for that beauty, that truth, that re-ordering . . . in your own person.

 

It is not an issue of Your idea or Their idea, it's a question of orientation.

<p>Hi im writng writing a dissertation on Diane Arbus and postmodernism. Could you possibly post the part of your essay that talks about Diane Arbus? Thank you</p>

<p>I used to catch students who used on-line sources to avoid doing their own work. Google is lots of fun. Some schools have software to catch people who use other people work from other schools or from earlier student papers (the fun one at my school was a teacher getting as another person's work the paper the teacher had given highest marks to a few years earlier). </p>

<p>The question also sounds plagiarized. Lazy teacher, lazy students. Your teacher is basically not thinking for herself, so why should you think for yourselves, right?</p>

<p>Google shows around a quarter million pages for photography and postmodernism. You might want to turn in your teacher if she doesn't catch you first (this discussion is about the second link in the overall Photo.net discussions of photography and post-modernism, with Photo.net over all being the third site showing up).</p>

<p>I am interested in the question, but not as an exercise for helping college students avoid doing the work in a class they're probably only taking because it's a requirement or because they thought it would be easy.</p>

<p>People, it's the time of year for take home exams. If the question is interesting in itself, then run with it, but know that you're not really helping the student find a more suitable college which is the real problem the student has to deal with. A good take home exam question requires thinking on the teacher's part as well as the students, not whomping up some boiler plate from grad school class notes and then being upset that the kids whomped up something they neither believed in or nor cared about in return.</p>

<p>Good guess the teacher is either a graduate TA (which means it's also exam time for teacher) or an adjunct who wants to use all that PoMo theory from graduate school and who isn't happy not being paid well and not getting benefits for teaching students who don't care.</p>

<p>Students who get canned questions will be tempted to give canned answers. To get good answers from students, the teacher has to think, not reuse grad school notes. (First instance in the first page of Google results was something like 1998, so this question and concept have been around for a while).</p>

<p>It's far too broad a question to elicit good answers unless the student has the time to write a quite longer paper than our overworked TA or adjunct would be willing to read. Diane Arbus and postmodernism, maybe. Is suicide a postmodernist gesture? Did postmodernism arise from women's decoupage work and scrapbooks? Is postmodernism a product of industrialization of women's work and the subsequent investment in bricoleur art strategies cooped by male artists?</p>

<p>And I'm not getting paid to come up with more interesting questions than the original one?</p>

<p>Other thing, mass communications arose with the telegraph. We do things faster now, but the jump in speed between the 18th and 19th Centuries was exponential. See accounts of American Civil War generals communicating with DC headquarters on the day of battle in close to real time.</p>

<p>The 19th Century in the American Northeast was a time of profound changes -- the industrialization of women's work, mass travel, mass communications, the possibility of actually visiting Europe more than once in a lifetime, of keeping in touch with the old country (my 18th Century ancestors had no contact with their families in England). </p>

<p>Trying to pretend we invented the Paleo-electric in the 1960s is profoundly silly. Yes, we're going through one of the most significant revisions of how humans live since the change between Paleolithic and Neolithic and it's happening fast, but the change began with treadle and harness looms and flyer spinning wheels. The fly shuttle loom was the last significant improvement in handweaving and lead to the mechanical weaving in the same way that the flyer wheel lead to mechanical spinning.</p>

<p>This created a market for cigarettes, photographs, and coffee, as well as fashion magazines and an interest in news that doesn't affect us directly.</p>