tdigi Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 I have a D100 and I need a wide prime to go with the 50 1.4 I plan to purchase. I am a Canon user and I don't know much about the Nikon world ( I need this for my work studio ) I also plan to get a Canon Flash SB 800 or 600. So I guess I have a few questions 1. Which wide prime is a good choice that is no more then $3002. Which Flash Sb800 or 600?3. A good affordable way to get the flash off the camera Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdigi Posted March 26, 2008 Author Share Posted March 26, 2008 Sorry my question better formatted 1. Which wide prime is a good choice that is no more then $300 2. Which Flash Sb800 or 600? 3. A good affordable way to get the flash off the camera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_manning1 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Tommy, Try the Nikkor 24mm f2.8 AFD prime. It's around $300 and on your D100 (as well as my D300) it's roughly equivalent to a 35mm lens on an SLR film camera. It's a great walk- around lens, good depth-of-field and clarity (but allows shallow DoF, when desired, with the fairly fast f2.8 aperture), it's light, and comes with it's own little metal hood. Makes slinging your dSLR fast and light over your shoulder. ----David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_in_PA Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 There is no truly wide prime that fits your description, since wide on a DX sensor is 18mm or less. Go a little higher price and get the excellent Sigma 10-20 or Tokina 12-24 for truly wide use. You can get an older flash used, I think, too, that will work on a D100 as well as the SB600 or 800. Others will chime in with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdigi Posted March 26, 2008 Author Share Posted March 26, 2008 24 or a 35 is fine. I just need something wide enough for a small group shot. Also, and sorry if this is a dumb question. What is Nikkor? is Nikon and Nikkor 2 different things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanjo_viagran Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 a used Nikon 20mm 2.8D is around that money. other than that is going to be hard to get a Nikon wide prime for $300 the 18mm 2.8G sells for twice that and the 14mm 2.8D used sells for about 1G :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanjo_viagran Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 *sorry, 18mm 2.8D, NOT "G" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_manning1 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Tommy, A 35mm effective field of view lens would be fine for small groups. Just zoom with your feet if you need a bit more or less. That would put you squarely in the 24mm 2.8 that I'm talking about. Nikkor is the name for the Nikon-branded and produced lenses. I have the Tokina 12-24 f4 wide zoom that Peter recommends, and I like it. It does show some chromatic aberration in high-contrast scenarios, though, as well as being heavier. But, it's built like a tank and not as expensive as the Nikkor glass. It's my only non-Nikon lens. It's too wide for general use, though, like shooting people, unless you keep it at 24mm...but that zoom ring is mighty tempting, and then you start getting distortions to your subjects (people start looking a bit unnatural). It adds wonderful drama to urban landscapes, though. Hope this helps. David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tri-x1 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 I have the 20mm that I use on my D300 but want to get an AFD prime 24mm (I have the manual focus). The 20mm is quite a bit more bulky and heavier than the 24mm. and the 24mm (35mm on digital) is perfect for groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkka_nissila Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 The 24mm AF-D is quite a good lens and is in your budget. The 20mm is wider but has serious issues with the edges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdigi Posted March 26, 2008 Author Share Posted March 26, 2008 Thanks all, I think I am going with the following for the D100 1. Nikon Normal AF Nikkor 50mm f/1.4D Autofocus 2. Nikon 24mm f/2.8D AF Nikkor Lens for Nikon Digital SLR Cameras 3. Nikon SB-800 AF Speedlight Flash 4. Sto-Fen OM-SB5 Omni-Bounce for Nikon SB-800 I assume there is no compatibility issue with these items and my camera. How about something to get the flash off the camera? Again I appreciate all the advice I am lost trying to figure out Nikon products coming from canon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShunCheung Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 When I was using 35mm film cameras, I really like the 35mm lens for small group shots. If you use something like a 24mm (again, on 35mm film/FX format), you tend to distort the people on the two ends. For the D100's DX format (1.5x "crop factor"), a 24mm should work in the same fashion. The D100 is an older DSLR that uses D-TTL flash. The corresponding flashes from that era are the SB-28DX and the later SB-80 DX. However, both the (current i-TTL flashes) SB-800 and SB-600 can drop back to the D-TTL mode to work with the D100. So you might as well get the SB-800/SB-600 for future compatibility. The SB-800 has more power, can accept a 5th battery and an external power pack for faster recycle time. If you can afford the extra $140 or so, you are better off getting the SB-800. To get the flash off your camera, you can use an SC-28 or SC-29 flash cord; the older SC-17 also works. Since your D100 is not i-TTL compatible, you need to upgrade your camera to take advantage of that feature. See also: http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=008mhJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oskar_ojala Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 For small groups, the 24 should be good (on a DX body). Go wider than that and you need to watch out for wideangle distortion at the corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squiggs77 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 What do you mean by 'Something to get the flash off the camera?" Do you mean a way to control the flash when it is disconnected from the camera? Or do you mean a piece of hardware like a flash bracket that will hold the flash off of the camera? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_sirota1 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 You don't need the Omni-Bounce -- the SB-800 comes with an equivalent diffusion dome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdigi Posted March 26, 2008 Author Share Posted March 26, 2008 disconnected. I guess a pocketwizard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiyen Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 You can set the SB-800 to slave mode and have it just fire in conjunction with the on-camera flash. Not a great solution but one. Or you can get the SU-800 and that will control the SB-800. Or pocket wizard or one of the cheap ebay variants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acbeddoe Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 I bought all of my primes used, each for less than $300. OK, the 85mm was just over. I have 20mm f/2.8, 35mm f/2.0, 50mm f/1.4, 85mm f/1.8, all AF-D.I had the 60mm f/2.8 (yup, less than $300), but sold it to help fund the new 60mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janez_pelko Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 You don't need Omni-Bounce or diffusion dome fot group shots. It will make no difference, on the other hand it shall reduce the flash power. Diffusion dome makes difference only at very short distances or in a very tight rooms. Regards, Janez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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