noalbany Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 Tired of breaking Yashicas (3 in the past month) and have decided to buy a Rollei. I want specifically to get a 2.8 Planar w/meter. There are different versions of this, no? Is any one better than the oother?thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eskoi.pohjanpalo Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 Here is a good link of Ferdi Stutterheim http://homepage.mac.com/fwstutterheim/ rolleigraphy/ My favourite is 2.8 GX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven_woody Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 i won't worry about with or without a meter since i will finally decide to buy in a handhold meter. meters in most of used Rolleiflex are too old to be of much use. - woody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alvin_hear Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 <p> <a href="http://members.aol.com/dcolucci/rolleitlr.htm">Rolleiflex Models and Prices</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_earussi1 Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 I've owned the E3 and F versions and prefer the feel of the F. Don't like the EV system anyway. But Steve is right, the meter, though fun to play with, is good only for film with a very broad latitude such as color neg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_cook Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 Interesting that the meter on my 2.8F, version I from about 1960 matches exactly to my Weston Master V from 1965. I recently had the Weston rebuilt by Hollywood Light Metric, so I know it is accurate. I do think that mine is the exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_purdy Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 Michael, I don't think there are any Rollei users left in the world who seriously contend that the Planar is better than the Xenotar. Except as a subject for entertainment value. I myself have worn my eyeballs out trying to find the surperior lens and the only difference I can find is that the Planar is more expensive. If you want to get a latest version of the 2.8F with serial number after 295xxxxx then you will get a Xenotar. As to the meter, I use a spot meter with my 2.8F xenotar and only resort to the meter when I forget to bring my spot meter as I did for a wedding last year. In blinding sun out doors the Rollei meter was hopeless. Those little sensors on the top of the camera read too much sky light. Other than that though the meter is accurate. Once you get a Rolleiflex you will never use a Yashica again. Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_purdy Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 If I could afford it I would get this one. The seller is very reputable and trustworthy. I have bought several things from him and he is a very good guy. http://cgi.ebay.com/ROLLEI-ROLLEIFLEX-2-8F-2-8-F-WHITE-FACE-12-24-MINT-LN_W0QQitemZ160105427698QQihZ006QQcategoryZ3354QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpj Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 Everything said above is correct! As a "Rollei guy" who owns six and has owned several more since the 1960s, the essential points have been summed up pretty well. The meter is usually a bit better than guessing but is a wide-angle averaging meter that certainly isn't very helpful under many light conditions. The Planar/Xenotar debate is never-ending. I have both. As to the "White Face" version, this is one that has a different plate around the lenses and different positioning of the serial number. I have one but it sure doesn't make any photographic difference. You will pay a $200 or more premium for a "White Face" because of its collectability. The only thing not mentioned is that the 2.8 model is larger overall and heavier than the 3.5 and with today's film you usually don't need the extra f-stop of speed. Remember when the Rollei was designed, the top speed of "fast" black and white film was 400 and color negative film was 160. So if you find a nice condition 3.5F you might consider it. As to the focusing screen, the E2 and F models all have the removable hoods so dropping in a Maxwell Screen is a simple thing you can do yourself and you'll have a modern brilliant screen equal to that in a new Hasselblad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaius1 Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 I have to disagree about the meter. With a little intelligence I have found the meter to give excellent exposures (e.g. in sunlight I might meter off the grass, then let everything else in the scene fall where it may). I have half a dozen rolls of beautiful-looking FP4+, full range of tones, bags of detail in the shadows and highlights, drying in my bathroom right now. All shot last weekend in bright overhead sunlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_m Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 There is no way you can get reliable exposures using such a primitive reflected light meter. It is too much influenced by the brightness of the subject. You need to use an incident metering technique which a camera fitted meter cannot do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triode___ Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 I have had good success with the meter in my 2.8Fs in difficult lighting conditions using slide film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chauncey_walden Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 The meter on my 3.5F if pointed in an appropriate direction and set to a film speed tested for correct exposure has always worked perfectly for me with Velvia 50, Provia 100 and Velvia 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etienne_w Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Michael, I bought an FX recently. The meter (a kind of "wide area spot meter") is very good. I shot ~30 rolls so far in various lighting conditions (including rather difficult ones) and it never failed on me. The built-in meter is actually the reason why I wanted a GX/FX. Since I carry my Rollie almost everywhere I wanted to keep the gear to a minimum. Furthermore the 2.8 Planar is brilliant. Now my girlfriend enjoys the old Yashica. (However she's so good at taking pictures, I reckon she would deserve the Rollie and should leave me with the Yashica :-) We shoot exclusively color slides, they blow our socks off all the time. Happy shooting, Etienne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etienne_w Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Forgot to mention: with a GX/FX, avoid to have direct sunlight entering the camera from "above". The meter is located behind the mirror, hence excessive light coming on the viewfinder might influence the metering. I actually never had any problem with this, except once: I had direct sunlight on the focusing screen. Fortunately I noticed it before taking the picture, and have been aware of this "problem" ever since. With the FX, my slides always turn out to be perfectly exposed. Etienne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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