francis_bartus Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 Hi everyone,<p>I am looking for a red filter for both infrared photography (with Kodak HIE) and general Black and White (mostly landscapes.) I am considering either a Red 25 or a Deep Red 29; <b>most importantly, I want to make sure the filter sufficiently enhances the infrared effects of Kodak HIE</b>--blackening the skies and whitening foliage, etc. I have read that some infrared photographers use a Red 25, but others recommend a Deep Red 29.<p>Also, I plan to use the filter for dramatic landscapes with "popping" white clouds and dark grey or black skies. My question here is: will the Deep Red 29 be <i>too</i> exaggerated for this purpose? I know that the Red 25 has a significant impact on skies and green foliage--this is precisely the effect I want. How different are the two filters, really?<p>Would a Deep Red filter be the best choice for both infrared photography <i>and</i> contrasty black and white landscapes, or should I stick with a Red #25?<p>Thanks for your help, Francis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiyen Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 Francis, I use a Red 25. You will get dark but not black skies with a 25. I have not used a Red 29 so can't help you there... allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francois_gauthier Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 25 is medium red and 29 dark red. There are also specialised infrared filters so dark you won't see a thing through a SLR, more expensives but they do maximize that IR look. I don't use Kodak HIE but it seems to me that a 29 would be just right for you : quite bold with regular film and acceptable for infrared. It is a mather of preference but i always found the common 25 too much for adding contrast and too shy for dramatic. Note that you can add power to these by stacking a polarizer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francis_bartus Posted February 20, 2005 Author Share Posted February 20, 2005 Thanks, Francois--that was precisely the kind of answer I was looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen hazelton Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 You will find that the 25 is very common and the 29 is very uncommon. I suppose you can get it by mail okay. But I have never actually seen one, even at camera shows where they have tubs full of filters of every description. Anyway, I'd try the red #25, if that's not enough, then ante up the $100 and go for the opaque filters. How white and how dark things appear depends on the exposure and development and printing exposure- it's not just the filter that does all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taner Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 Kodak TMY with Tiffen 25A Red filter: <p><img src="http://d6d2h4gfvy8t8.cloudfront.net/1349258-lg.jpg"></p> Kodak TMX with Tiffen 25A Red filter: <p><img src="http://d6d2h4gfvy8t8.cloudfront.net/2989376-lg.jpg"></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan_dzo Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 I use both, top quality B+W filters bought cheaply on Ebay. The 29 will supply what you are looking for with HIE much better. With normal monochrome the 29 will be a little slower but not look terribly different. Get both and experiment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_eve Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 I don't have a 29, but my side-by-side "tests" using a 25, both on "normal" b&w film, (FP4) and several i/r films (SFX, HIE, Konica & Maco) indicate that the results achived are very similar ... my conclusion being that using a 25 with i/r film is an expensive option, far better i/r effects being obtained with an 89B. As always, your mileage may vary, but just because you get a pleasing effect using a 25 with i/r film doesn't mean you couldn't have achieved the same result with conventional film. For HIE, I'd definitely recommend an 87 filter. It's an expensive film and seems silly not to make the most of it's i/r capabilities (that most other i/r films can't manage). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francis_bartus Posted February 21, 2005 Author Share Posted February 21, 2005 Looks like I'll go with a 29 to start out... I like the HIE results that I have seen with it, and I'm not ready to ante up the $100 for an opaque filter at this point. I am glad to hear that the 29 won't completely obliterate regular monochrome film. As far as getting one, I plan to just buy one on B+H--no big deal there.<p>Thanks for all your helpful advice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonsjons Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 if you do decide to try an opaque filter, you want might to check with Harrison & Harrison in CA. i picked up a few different IR filters from them at around $25 each...glass ones with threads, not gels.... don't have a website but you can mail them at: HarrisonOP@aol.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ_butner___portland__or Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Kodak HEI & deep red #29 filter. Russ<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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