nicholasprice Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 No-one should be allowed to have a photo on the TRP page unless it has been submitted for critique from the general community, and not until it has acrued at least 11 ratings! What does everyone think? - this is an attempt to reduce the amount of Mate-Rating that seems to be related to the TRP page being full of photos which have not been posted for critique, but have so many high ratings, presumably fron "friends". This is not sour grapes, as I have never had a photograph anywhere near the TRP page, and never expect to. But I agree with Edward Horn's point, that I would like to click on the TRP link, and see a cross-section of photographs rated on this site, and not just the ones which have gotten there with the help of their friends! Regards, Nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brncr6 Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 I belive them same way, Must be submitted for critique to be in the TRP, I have no fans or friends to rate my photos. I have to go though the critque forum to get my photos seen. The TRP is full of the same type of photos and the same people. Just look at the 24 hr. TRP. I log on here less and less now and I am looking else where to post my photos. Will I pay another 25$ to this site? I doubt it very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark lucas Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 What has been suggested above must be one of the simplest and least invasive ways of preventing some of the mate rating to date. I can see no justification for not implementing it and have never seen a valid argument against it to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholasprice Posted April 10, 2005 Author Share Posted April 10, 2005 Thats a shame Brian, this site needs more people like you. I agree with you, many of the photographs in the TRP are good, but they are the same old names, and the same old subjects. Not everyone has the same aesthetic tastes, not everyone rates flamingos 7/7, the problem is that TRP doesn't reflect this. Don't leave, stay and help change - Nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennington Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 If you go to Page-1 of the TRP and at the top change the sort from "By:Average" to "By:Rate Recent Average" nothing without a RFC will show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholasprice Posted April 10, 2005 Author Share Posted April 10, 2005 What is an FRC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholasprice Posted April 10, 2005 Author Share Posted April 10, 2005 I mean RFC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjmeade Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 Nick, it's an idea, but I'm not convinced its the best idea, or at least it's a bit harsh. I think there are loads of good photos from good photographers in the top rated photos. They can have just half a dozen ratings. Your theory that it would be very difficult to organise a dozen mate raters may be valid, but it would make life difficult for the others too. I just scroll down through the pages, sometimes it's rewarding. Best wishes. P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennington Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 Request for critique. If you change to this sort, only ratings from the Rate Recent Que count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholasprice Posted April 10, 2005 Author Share Posted April 10, 2005 I didn't know that Steve, and I suppose that others wont know it either! The TRP page as first seen is what seems to matter here. Peter, you are right, it usually takes me ages to get 11 ratings on any of my photographs, but if everyone suffers this delay, then the TRP page will still be valid, but will just show photographs posted several days or weeks or months earlier. - Is that too bad a thing? Regards, Nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirraway Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 I think 11 is a bit high, 7-8 might be a better number, but after reading the threads here yesterday and today it is obvious to me anyway that everyone should go through RFC otherwise where is the level playing field?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholasprice Posted April 10, 2005 Author Share Posted April 10, 2005 Thanks Ian, those were my thoughts after reading those other threads, but please don't let those specific concerns spill over into this forum. Regards, Nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john falkenstine Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 Why bother? some folks have a mate-rating production facility running in the background that hands out 6 and 7 ratings to names regardless of image quality at a dizzying volume. They don't have to bother putting it up for critique, and even if they did they would already have the ratings anyway....Basically those of us who put up images without the manipulation are getting f****d over and there's little that can be done about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholasprice Posted April 10, 2005 Author Share Posted April 10, 2005 Hence the Flamingo kit! Oh, it's a sad state of afairs! Maybe we shouldn't have ratings at all? - Nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerald_widen Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 The mate rating is so obvious to anyone who isn't mentally blind. I assume the powers that be have at least the intelligence of an average person. The only conclusion is they like it the way it is and feel it works perfectly as is.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholasprice Posted April 10, 2005 Author Share Posted April 10, 2005 This site is more sophisticated than I have given it credit for. I have found my Holy Grail! - you can search the TRP page, by the amount of ratings! Horay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholasprice Posted April 10, 2005 Author Share Posted April 10, 2005 And, by the amount of critiques! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mondiani Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 hehe it has changed!!! only request for critics are shown on the default view :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappoldt Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 Fascinating - it HAS changed. I don't see ANY of the usual names up there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomade Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 "This site is more sophisticated than I have given it credit for. I have found my Holy Grail! - you can search the TRP page, by the amount of ratings!" Let me smile about your happiness...!! In the "ratings" classification you're referencing, you'll find another bitter reality: that 90% of the rates goes to nudes. See a recent thread about this other downside of the TRO started by me some days ago: http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00BlJe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholasprice Posted April 10, 2005 Author Share Posted April 10, 2005 Thank you admin, if you have done this. You are restoring our faith in this fabulous site. Integrity has been preserved, and its great to be alive once more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mondiani Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 I see my name which is even better<br>Thank you guys for your excellent work ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholasprice Posted April 10, 2005 Author Share Posted April 10, 2005 Did I speak too soon? The nude thing is a difficult one, which probably isn't related to Mate-Rating, but to people's personal preferences about what they like to look at. Sex is important to the human species, and it is hard wired within us (male and female) to be arroused by the nude form of our sexual preference in an errotic pose (its true, even the most pious and prudish individual has lusts - some people just lie about having them), so at least people are rating images that they like - i.e. a subjective opinion, all be it not to everyone's taste. All things being equal though, I haven't noticed a preponderance of nudes on the TRP pages? Regards, Nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertbrown Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 Before leaving on vacation about three weeks ago, I posted a thread on this topic every day for a week. The administration, which refuses to do anything about any of the mate rating problems, erased all the threads when I posted the final one. At least I got there attention! What I'm encouraged by is that there seems to be a lot more PN users voices their frustration over the mate rating problem. Perhaps Brian will eventually listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertbrown Posted April 10, 2005 Share Posted April 10, 2005 Wow, Brian, you've finally done it. The TRP looks a lot different and the average to get on the top page has dropped tremendously. This is certainly a step in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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