jeffrey_gruskin Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 This is a digital question only. I seem to have more control over my 20D with 580ex flash when I shoot both in manual settings. Do any of you shoot fully manual. If not what are your settings? Thanks guys!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelmowery Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Yes all the time. As a professional i have complete controll over my images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picturesque Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Manual camera mode most of the time. Manual flash mode sometimes. When not in manual camera mode, I use AV or TV as appropriate, with compensations. When not in manual flash mode I use ETTL Evaluative flash mode with compensations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_rubinstein___mancheste1664880652 Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 manual mode on camera always but never in manual with flash. When bouncing/diffusing as I do 100% of the time it is too complicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfr Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 I shoot manual outside and in dark halls where shooting aperture priority would give too long shutter speeds. If the light allows it, I shoot Av indoors because there are many different light levels most of the times. I do adjust for the scene in that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laura_dunn Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Manual mode with camera all the time, manual flash about half the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliff_henry Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Manual mode indoors always with flash in ETTL. AV mode outdoors most of time, but sometimes MM if lighting is diffcult, with ETTL fill flash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agaimages Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 80% manual camera, ttl flash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdp Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 My camera is set to M and I use Metz 60 CT-4 and CT-1 flash units that I manually adjust. For the most part at a reception, when it's usually dark, I'm set about F/4-8 and around 1/30-1/50 and the flash is around 5.6/400 most of the time. Of course, your mileage may vary. This attached pic is from Sunday's wedding, it rained and was nicely cloudy outside, and I bounced the flash.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iskandar_azaman___kuala_lu Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Indoors, 100% manual. Flash on ETTL2. Like Ben said a few posts up, it just gets too complicated to calculate flash when you are bouncing it. Outdoors or when there is a lot of light i use Av. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun_carter Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 20d camera in manual indoors, av or tv outdoors; 580ex flash in ETTL evaluative outdoors, ETTL average indoors (CF-14) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savagesax Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 My foto partner Craig uses all manual camera settings, the 1D mark2, with an all manual Norman 200b strobe. No idea how he can be so accurate, but he is! He even manual focuses most of the time. hehe, think he likes to suffer or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christiaan_phleger___honol Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 MANUAL! Even do guide number calulations in my Head, on the fly, for full flash and fill flash. Manual focus. Heck, I even weigh out the grains of flash power to the gram in my palm, F8 every time! Of course, it takes a few moments for the smoke to clear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjogo Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 Always Manual >>> Flash & Camera .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjogo Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 try this one<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjogo Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 Much easier on manual-- especially the flash. Can't make a mistake. It is all footage. Will never over or under expose. On automatic, the flash is reading more than just footage. It's from all those years of testing film. Using a manual Norman. But it's always perfect exposure when you measure the distance. The 580, with a dome, on a overcast day = is perfect @ 7ft.. manual 1/16.. ISO 100.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografz Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 For weddings, never ... do use Manual camera settings with ETTL flash, and ride the comp buttons. In the studio, always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
think27 Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 Just one image as example please. Bandwidth etc... Also this is not really a thread asking for examples of images shot manually ;-) Please take a quick look at the Forum guidelines. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffrey_gruskin Posted October 6, 2006 Author Share Posted October 6, 2006 The reason I started this thread was because as many with my 580Ex on ETTL I seem to get exposures all over the place, so I am going to start shooting everything in Manual and work on footage to subjects. It has been much more accurate in my testing. The gowns will tell me alot more after this weekends 2 weddings. In manual flash I am getting more punch out of the camera when needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffrey_gruskin Posted October 6, 2006 Author Share Posted October 6, 2006 I mean't to say more punch out of the flash. Another thing, Wouldn't you have a more consistent bounce flash if you kept flash on manual instead of ETTL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjogo Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 JEFFREy :::: Yes, very consistant with manual--it will send out the same amount. Not reading a white dress, evaluate/average, etc....and trying to calculate the automatic parameters > in the camera itself. Once you know the manual ~ 7, 10, 12 feet ~ working distance of your flash...its a lot less brain work. Because of digital and CS2, I believe many would rather try and save their captured "improper" exposed image > with Photoshop. Instead of testing ?? With film we did not have that luxury. It was 80+ densities or custom work at the lab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric merrill Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 Count me as an automatic guy. Both camera and flash. I'll dial in exposure compensation on either or both as I see the need. Automatic doesn't have to mean letting the camera make the decisions. I found it easier to get consistent results on manual. I found that I operate faster after learning what to expect from auto mode, and then making minor adjustments on the fly. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picturesque Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 Past a subject distance of maybe six-ten feet, manual ceiling bounced flash could be very consistent. However, when your subject is closer, some frontal spill from the bounced beam lands on them, making the flash exposure different. Some modifiers actually take the frontal spill of the bounced beam and either re-direct it (white card) or diffuse it further (LS). If you direct the head of the flash away from the subject, such as in wall bounce, and the elements stay the same distances from each other, manual bounced flash is probably very consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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