aricmayer Posted July 16, 2004 Author Share Posted July 16, 2004 Too true, Tom. Screw culture. Wanna fight? (Please, try the veal. I'll be here all week.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beeman458 Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 The people's willingness to fight is a defining characteristic of a culture. So don't be so quick to discount aggressive behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdavidprice Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 D. Poinsett said "There are no truths, only beliefs." Spoken like a true freshman. I hope you have a lifetime ahead of you in which to learn the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h._p. Posted July 18, 2004 Share Posted July 18, 2004 "There are no truths, only beliefs." As close an approximation to reality as I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beeman458 Posted July 18, 2004 Share Posted July 18, 2004 So it's an opinion that the Sun rises in the East, sets in the West, gets dark when there's no light and death when no life where life once existed? :) "Hey doc!" "Is there life in this rotting corpse?" "In my opinion, that all depends on if it's a government program or not." :) I just want to make sure that I understand this idea of opinion Vs truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_poinsett Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 Physical concepts are a creation of the human mind. Never underestimate the power of belief. It is the essence of art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beeman458 Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 So if I understand you correctly, without the human mind, the universe ceases to exist? :) Wow! If that's what this thread has become, I think I'll go back to being the worst photographer on the net:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_poinsett Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 "Physical concepts are free creations of the human mind, and are not, how ever it may seem, uniquely determined by the external world. In our endeavor to understand reality we are somewhat like a man trying to understand the mechanism of a closed watch. He sees the face and the moving hands, even hears its ticking, but he has no way of opening the case. If he is ingenious he may form some picture of a mechanism which could be responsible for all the things he observes, but he may never be quite sure his picture is the only one which could explain his observations. He will never be able to compare his picture with the real mechanism and he cannot even imagine the possibility of the meaning of such a comparison." Albert Einstein, 1938 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beeman458 Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Well tie a chain around my ankle and throw me overboard:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beeman458 Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 If it helps, I walked away from this sort of nonsense back in 78. Reality exists, with or without your permission. Reality is the true master of life, we just have to learn to become it's unwilling servant for serve we will.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belledeux diana Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 I'm glad the Hegel board is still up and running...I found this the other day and wanted to add it to the conversation. <P> It comes from the preface of "Time Out of Mind, the Diaries of Leonard Micahels 1961-1995". <P> <blockquote> Occasionally when writing about an incident it became a story, or while describing the gesture of some friend it grew into a character only vaguely like the friend, as if sentence rhythms and the myriad relations of words had a life of their own, and, like a dream, language speaks (to)us more than we know. At a deeper level of consideration, it must seem that everyone except children is susceptible to the beauties and corruptions of form, and not merely in storytelling. Plato thought this susceptibility was the erotic highway to truth. Mathematicians talk about the allure of formal beauty or elegant proofs. When revising a sentence for the sake of a more pleasing sound, I sometimes found, - suddenly - that it made better sense. This seems to me inexplicable, but then how we say anything at all, let alone write it, isn't wasy to explain." </blockquote> <P> I think this has to do with the truth Hegel was trying to get at. And it's real. It's very real-you can almost touch it, maybe you can touch it.... It is simply part of the human ability to create-creativity is something that does follow us around a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belledeux diana Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Ooops. I posted before I read. What a beautiful Einstein quote, D Poinsett! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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