patricks Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 Marc, is what you are saying about MF film/digital real estate really true? I asked the very same question at the MF forum http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=007Cm5 There seems to be a consensus that digital 35mm, even with physical limitations of 24x36 and smaller glass, will at some point be just as good or better than MF digital/film, and therefor render MF meaningless, unless you like that style/workflow?! What's your/other Leica users opinion? Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patricks Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 on the head of the topic - really... it is always time to buy/sell Leica M gear... or what the heck, just use them instead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominic_. Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 <p>Yes, start getting rid of it <i>immediatly</i>, send it to me, for free of course, because most <i><b>certainly</b></i> one needs the most technologically advanced, multi-megapixel full from CMOS senosr DSLR to be able to make great photographs. Those retro Leica Ms you have are nothing but useless paperweights and ornaments that are past their prime. Remember, you <i>need</i> autofocus, 8fps, a 100-300 IF Aspherical 2.8 constant zoom (actually I wouldn't mind a lens like that) and 11 MP if you ever want to be a great photographer!!!;-) j/k<br><br>--Dominic</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans_beckert Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 We neither care nor want to care about what others do. We want film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandeha Lynch Posted January 30, 2004 Share Posted January 30, 2004 Just thinking ahead a little. How can I make my own 120 film? I guess I need some Rockland Liquid Light, but where can I get rolls of transparent plastic sheet? I better save all my spools too, and the backing paper ... Yeah, I feel sorry for those guys with 35mm, must be a real pain cutting sprocket holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
._._z Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 <i> We neither care nor want to care about what others do. We want film. </i><p> Going from speaking in the 3rd-person about yourself to speaking for everyone? Or is that just how you've come to speaking about yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
._._z Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 <i> Film can completely disappear and the only obsolete kit I'll be stuck with is my M. But since I use the Ms almost exclusively for B&W work, I don't believe they'll be obsolete in my lifetime </i><p> Except that you have been selling off your Leica gear, in this forum. So, when Mani asks, "Would it be financially prudent to start selling off most of my film cameras and gear now?" should he do what you say or what you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly_flanigan1 Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Panic is good for markets; it causes one to get good deals on tools; stocks; goods. Buying when stuff when it is out of favor; ie declared obsolete; worthless; old hat; sometimes will get one decent items; at fire sale prices. Chasing what is most popular often times is an expensive loss; if the tool is not used to increase ones income or productivity. <BR><BR>The trends in Photo tools have always been changing. I remember when a few local realtors sold their Nikon and Canon slrs; and went to APS or Sony Macvia. With the Sony; they just shoot their hous photos; and save the floppy in their file cabinet; along with the paper work on each house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografz Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 "Except that you have been selling off your Leica gear, in this forum. So, when Mani asks, "Would it be financially prudent to start selling off most of my film cameras and gear now?" should he do what you say or what you do?" - AZ replies. The "Golden Toad" award to AZ for conspicuous bravery while jumping to conclusions. However, since I just took delivery of a brand new M7 0.85 Friday, and a Canon EOS 1V last week, and have kept all my MF film backs, that would make you WRONG now wouldn't it? Not only do I STILL have a nice range of Leica gear, I use it all. If I don't, I sell select pieces and get what I need to shoot with. I may sell either the 75 or the 90 in future, as I am finding them somewhat redundant for my use as of late. I've always done that... but now you would like to attach a different purpose to support your pathological "current events" argument. You sure like to cram your nose into other people's business don't you AZ? Pathetic.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 You sure like to cram your nose into other people's business don't you AZ? Pathetic. AZ is protected by the modulaters, Mark. So you better be careful how you talk to him. Anyway, I heard 60,000 Spiders with only only leg are looking for him. Hey, his got his own issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Jeez, i think they've got lost. I'm being followed; i can feel the presence of 60,000 minds. Time to hid under my blanket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
._._z Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Funny thing Marc, you sell gear here and I note it and that bug goes back up your butt. If you want to set the record straight, fine, but your own pathetic, defensive insults don't help you any. Still, it's amusing to see you wriggle around and spew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
._._z Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 <i> . Anyway, I heard 60,000 Spiders with only only leg are looking for him. </i><p> Uh oh, the spiders are talking to Allen again. He must have forgotten his meds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bart feliciano Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 AZ, give it a rest. Thank You, the intarweb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografz Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Az, your implication that I was bailing on film was clear. And the implication was incorrect. No amount of double talk on your part elevates that. Other people may let you inflict your personal pathology on them, but I won't. I'll call you on it every time when you stick your probing, sniffing nose into my business by blatantly implying or suggesting something concerning me that isn't true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans_beckert Posted January 31, 2004 Share Posted January 31, 2004 Mani: Yes, sell them at once. We are all eager to get your stuff at the lowest price possible, so dump it now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic_. Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 �[� Z (Bailey Seals), you haven't been the same since you switched from Playtex to Tampax. You spend too much time attacking everyone on photo.net. Just look at all your postings here and everywhere else, and there is a consistent theme: your constant need to "win" every argument, regardless of the facts or logic. Classic signs of a sociopath. Get a life! Or at least, get a social life, take a break from the internet. You're an addict. PS. You only rated 500 pics this month, lower than your 800 average for 50 months in a row (or a grand total of 40,510 so far). What's with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis_couvillion Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 "Uh oh, the spiders are talking to Allen again. He must have forgotten his meds." Uhhh, no, Bailey... Actually, those of us who know and love Allen have hidden his medication. When he takes his medication he turns into a petty, vindictive, bitchy, megalomaniacal bore. God knows we don't need another one of those around here. ;>) Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
._._z Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 <i> you haven't been the same since you switched from Playtex to Tampax. You spend too much time attacking </i><p> Pot. Kettle. Black <p> Funny how you repeatedly post insults about sexual orientation and sexual identitt (most of them subsequently deleted by moderators); clearly you have personal issues that you are working out in public, and funnier still how you decry personal attacks <b>while you make personal attacks.</b> ROFLMAO. Vikram Singh, grow the f^ck up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis1 Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 Vic chill. Bailey chill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic_. Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 Bailey, Here you go again! You omit all your trespasses, and only point out mine, which, by the way, were in response to your arrogant ad hominem attacks, something that you have refined into an art form. Your posts that started the exchanges were deleted, so try and be factual, instead of spinning your usual illogical logic. PS. If you want to get historical, it was you who initially started attacking me, and I called you on it. Selective memory won't help you. Travis, I'm chilling from now on, I'll let Bailey continue on his public infantile rants. The tragedy is that he knows a lot about photography (both techincal and aesthetic), but chooses to be an arsehole in his communication methods. It's one thing to be arrogant if one has put up a lot of fine photographs, but this fellow has nothing to show. Read his posts in other forums on photo.net, and ask yourself why he is the most disliked person on photo.net. People chastise him time and again, something that does not happen to anyone else. He sows what he reaps. Talk about personal issues. Pot. Kettle. Black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
._._z Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 <i> I'm chilling from now on </i><p> We'll see. Your track record is pretty poor, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bart feliciano Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 AZ, You spoil the usually pleasant and informative experience of photo.net for some people. Please take up a more suitable hobby for your personality. Thank You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis_couvillion Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 Bart, Bart, Bart... Tsk, tsk, tsk.. As an American, an artsy New Yorker and a photo.net member, Bailey is entitled to voice his phtographic opinions, regardless how repellently he may express himself. And you know what they say about opinions: they're like a**holes; everybody's got one. (Perhaps you haven't heard the corollary: even a**holes have opinions.) I am just shocked and dismayed the way everyone is picking on poor Bailey on this forum. It hardly gives him time anymore to fight with people on other fora. Let's give poor Bailey a break. In that regard, Tony and Josh, I propose a new forum rule: Bailey gets the last word. Always. Whenever Bailey posts, no one is allowed to post after him. That way we can all get along. ..and that's the truth. ;>) Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
._._z Posted February 1, 2004 Share Posted February 1, 2004 I'll consult Allen's spiders for recommendations. Thanks, Bart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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