leanne_newton Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 Hi Joel, the shot Jim Vanson linked to is yours, from the series you posted recently... or am I missing the plot here ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leanne_newton Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 My opinion is that currently your work lacks creative vision...I say this because although the girl is very attractive, and easy to photograph, the pictures lack intensity....when we say headshot, I think one has to avoid a sort of passport pic effect, so that`s where lighting technique comes in. You can get away with so much when you are photographing a beautiful girl, I can`t help thinking she could look more interesting, but perhaps an actor`s headshot doesn`t require more interpretation ? This shot will get her work as a Mom, a 25-30 something business woman etc... in the advertising market. The problem here is will you improve your photography shooting this way ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leanne_newton Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 Correction, 30 - something. She looks older in the more recent version. And somewhat more tense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joel_moser Posted October 15, 2003 Author Share Posted October 15, 2003 Leanne, you're right, the one Jim linked is from me. I think you're probably right if you think the image is boring, and I can't argue with that. However, and of course there's no way you could know, we did shoot many more lively pictures for her commerical headshots. I guess I posted this one, because it's the most normal :) What I'm doing with my headshot practice shots is I'm trying to tackle the problems one at a time. First I was having trouble getting the light under control. I think I've gained lots more control over that one thing, and of course I'm trying to work on the others, like working well with a model. Up until now, and including this series, my main concerns have been technical, so I've not been able to direct the way I'd like. Hopefully next time I'll get a little further. Thanks for the feedback :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twmeyer Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 <i>strongest points of this forum has been the use of examples rather than just yakking, pre-dating its incorporation into photo.net</i><p> Absolutely.<p>The garage shot is nice, but try it with the primary light source to one side, rather than right behind you... t<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joel_moser Posted October 15, 2003 Author Share Posted October 15, 2003 Thanks, Tom. Yes, I'll try that. I'm glad you came with a sample and you have uploaded galleries; that's excellent! Although now I'm going to bug you about each portrait and how it was done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leanne_newton Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 Looking at the shot in the garage again, I think that the lighting is fine... Tom's suggestions are good too....but I wonder about the framing. Why not a vertical crop ? Her position is awkward - the hands and arms and elbows look defensive more than anything else. As you say I am sure you have others from this shoot, but I am commenting on this shot.Look at what she is wearing, her body language, the general composition. (Apart from aesthetics, vertical format is generally more useful to any agency, I think.) My suggestion is this...once you've set your lighting give your full attention to your subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
________1 Posted October 16, 2003 Share Posted October 16, 2003 Window light on right, mother holding white tee-shirt on left for fill-- just inches out of frame. Medium grey background. Cheap, used, auto everything Olympus dig-cam. The boy�s parents got a call from a casting director of �Power Rangers� a week later; his first show biz job. So much for headshots.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 oh no...yelow on grey... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 I know zip about head shots. So I pretend a lot with mannequins - they're usually cooperative. Fortunately, someone else has already figured out the lighting. :=)<BR> <P> <center> <img src= "http://pages.sbcglobal.net/b-evans/WebImages/9-26-03Web/image/ manequin2.jpg"> </center> www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joel_moser Posted October 17, 2003 Author Share Posted October 17, 2003 Nice one, Jamie. And good going for little Stephan there; looks like he's in the big time. You don't by Stephan out. He buys YOU out! Eric, what's wrong with yellow and grey? Brad Evan, I wish I had some mannequin heads like that for practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twmeyer Posted October 17, 2003 Share Posted October 17, 2003 Yeah...<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joel_moser Posted October 17, 2003 Author Share Posted October 17, 2003 Tom, you may have a hard time finding volunteers that match that criteria. I mean, I know a guy with ONE arm, but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted October 18, 2003 Share Posted October 18, 2003 Brad! Those are so cool! Film and format please? Is it easy for you to keep doing these? I'd love to see a cross processed shot...e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted October 18, 2003 Share Posted October 18, 2003 <P> Eric, they're digital, not film - from a sony digicam. I've shot a lot of mannequins over the last two years, I think the better ones are where there's some initial ambiguity whether they're real people or not.<BR> <P> <center> <img src= "http://pages.sbcglobal.net/b-evans/WebImages/9-09-03-SF-Web/ image/twowomen.jpg"> </center> www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted October 19, 2003 Share Posted October 19, 2003 Joel, that was funny... Brad, can you shoot a cross pro one for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted October 19, 2003 Share Posted October 19, 2003 Cross pro - what does that mean in a digital capture context? www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted October 19, 2003 Share Posted October 19, 2003 Not digital, conventional film. I assumed you had a film camera too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted October 19, 2003 Share Posted October 19, 2003 OK, I understand now. I can probably find my wife's Olympus Stylus and take a whack at it. But that's a fair chunk of work - I'd need to get something in exchange. My truck needs Simonizing - short of that, how about a couple of CDs - maybe Blue Cheer's first album and the long version of Bluebird - I seemed to have lost them... www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted October 20, 2003 Share Posted October 20, 2003 Brad, MP3's fine? Can you over ride the sytlus dx coding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_________1 Posted October 22, 2003 Share Posted October 22, 2003 Look at this: www.georgeholz.com . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricM Posted October 24, 2003 Share Posted October 24, 2003 wow! that's a great site with incredible photos. thanks for the link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted November 8, 2003 Share Posted November 8, 2003 Zooms are great in fast and fluid sitations like journalism and sports, and the photos are seldom reproduced very large. Otherwise figure out what you need for head shots, probably 85mm to 105mm on 35mm film, and buy yourself a high qualty single focal length lens. You'll get more sharpness, contrast, and better tonal rendition than most, if not all, zooms. This will hold true in the shadows, mid tones and hi-lites both in B&W and in color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourfa Posted November 8, 2003 Share Posted November 8, 2003 off topic - you can't manually override DX coding on a stylus. you can use conductive or insulating tape on the film cartridge to fool it though. try http://www.bythom.com/dxcodes.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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