lightwriter2 Posted June 19, 2003 Share Posted June 19, 2003 Hello. If using a softbox as the main light, is it common to use a second softbox (maybe smaller, or further back) as the fill light? I'm very new to studio flash photography and just learning. I like the look of a softbox as mainlight and a silver reflector for fill (b&w portrait), but I'm curious to know what else people use to fill with, ie, what other type of modifiers such as an umbrella, normal reflector, etc... Doesn't seem right to use soft diffused light as main, then fill with harsh light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 Don't out think yourself. It will depend on how you want the end result to look, a small hard fill source will create a different look than a large fill source will, as will using a reflector as opposed to using a light emitting source. Where you place the sources will also be psychologically and aesthetically important as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photobyalan.com Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 Eugene, Why do you feel like you need a fill light when using a softbox? If you take photos using window light, do you use a fill then? Sometimes, if the softbox isn't giving any catchlight, I'll use a low-power point source to provide it, but it's dialed way down so it doesn't destroy the look of the softbox lighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightwriter2 Posted June 20, 2003 Author Share Posted June 20, 2003 I'm really just learning now about lighting setups and I haven't really tried many different setups yet. I read that a common setup was to have a main light angled to one side of the model, and then a fill light close to the camera on the opposite side to fill in the shadows a bit. I tried with only the softbox right in front and above, angled downwards on the model, but the shadow under the chin, I thought was a little too dark. Filling in with a reflector gave a nice effect, but sometimes you can't get too close with a reflector on a full standing body pose or it'll be in the shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin_kolosky Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 Eugene Generally speaking, a fill light should not be noticeable whatsoever. its sole job is to lower the contrast and give you detail in the shadow. something that really works great is to bounce a light off of a back wall for a very broad and nonevident fill light source. and a wall is cheap!!! Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twmeyer Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 <i>My</i> walls are <i>really</i> expensive... more than a sheet of foamcore, that's for sure. When I use a second light for a soft fill, I use a larger light than the main. You could use a lightpanel, or any diffuser that is color acceptible (as opposed to "color correct") and pop a bare head through it, or if you have a color acceptible cheap wall, bounce the second strobe off it... t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_cochran Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 I have even used <small>< gasp... ></small> direct undiffused on-camera flash as fill, for location portraits where I wanted to minimize the amount of lighting equipment carried. If it's near the lens axis, and significantly dimmer than the main, a very small light can still work reasonably well. <p> But when I can, I'll often fill by shooting a light through a 60" satin umbrella, preferably placed near the white back wall, so that the light which bounces off the back side of the umbrella has a chance to bounce off the back wall and eventually get to the subject. This produces a very broad, diffuse, even fill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry_lambert1 Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 OOh man!! That's the fun of it! every fill type leaves a little signature, and mixing it up day to day helps keep your creativity at its peak! A softbox sure is a common fill, as well as umbrellas (shoot through or bounce), cards and reflectors, heck even your hand can work in some setups. I've seen some photogs always wear a white shirt consistently so that they can jump in as fill in a pinch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightwriter2 Posted June 24, 2003 Author Share Posted June 24, 2003 cool answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberwolf1 Posted June 30, 2003 Share Posted June 30, 2003 In character with a softbox is to use reflected light from a Flexfill; or use another softbox at lower power which might be lrgr in size. This is sort of a general vanilla answer that will not get you in trouble. Add "kickers" to make edges sparkle. Timber Borcherding timberborcherding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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