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<p>i have the amazing Nokia lumia 920 and its camera is that, just amazing but i have to say LG beat Sony to the punch quite a while ago<br>

http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/mobile-phones/lg-ku990-viewty-review-49292601/</p>

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<p>Steve, i've been hearing alot of talk as of late about snapspped but honestly im not sure what it is and its not available through the microsoft/nokia store. also i am a huge fan of grey scale photos so i love your photo, but if i may say in my personal taste the vignette it a little to heavy across the top</p>

<p>edwin.. would that be a peepshow? lol i am amazed at the quality of lighting you got from that flashlight!</p>

<p>Gup, i just spent enough time just looking at your photo that my laptop went to sleep lol<br>

being very close to the south shore of Superior i always love photos from the north, everything is so much more beautiful! the St. Lawrence is something i don t see photos of very much if ever so its a treat for me. that Blackberry seems to take rather fine photos and i somewhat agree with you on the flash, a lot of times a flash makes the photo look worse IMO, i try to not use one at all. ever! </p>

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<p><a href="/photodb/user?user_id=5189561">Wouter Willemse</a><a href="/member-status-icons"><img title="Hero" src="/v3graphics/member-status-icons/hero.gif" alt="" /><img title="Subscriber" src="/v3graphics/member-status-icons/sub4.gif" alt="" /><img title="Frequent poster" src="/v3graphics/member-status-icons/3rolls.gif" alt="" /></a>, May 19, 2013; 07:02 a.m.Lumia 800, running WP7.8</p>

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<p>im glad to see somebody else here using a WP, unless they just did it, here in the states if you have a WP7 its still running 7.5 (mango) not 7.8 (tango) i was trying to hold out for it before getting 8 but my quantum died and i was able to get a refurb 920. if you like the lumia you have now youll love the wp8 versions! personally i wasnt a fan of fhotoroom, but with the glitching in thumba ill try it again! some great photos you have there also</p>

<p>by weapon i mean phone, if you shoot with your phone even just once in a while lets hear about it! Make, Model, OS, why you chose it, the pros and cons of the camera, your fave photo apps whether lenses or editors or just even photo "toys" app just for fun and how bout a fave photo you have taken with it?<br>

mine happens to be a Nokia Lumia 920 running Windows Phone 8, i love everything about the camera but the lack of image stabilization is a bummer, best app IMO is "Thumba photo editor 3" though there are some saving issues that have popped up from the transition from WP7 to WP8<br>

so far in the few months ive had the 920 this is my fave photo ive taken, it was total accident that i ended up witha good photo as i was taking photos of the decals as part of a conversation.<br>

<img src="http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn291/killablelaw13/not%20watches/sten_zps2da16d25.jpg" alt="" /></p>

<p>Dan, what a great use you have found, i for one can say i never would have thought of it. but then again the only digital camera i have is my phone and film can no longer be purchased in my area.</p>

<p>Liane, i have gone through your photos, some of them are excellent but others are just blurry, one think i can say is if you're using your phones zoom, dont that is a very good place for noise and blurriness to come from with cell phones.. with the photo you included above, you got very nice colors out of that flower but the focus seems to be on the tip of the lower petal instead of the pestal, in my OP i was using a not so new fancy touch screen and on that phone if you tapped the screen it would just take the photo, while on my lumia 920 it will focus where ever i tape the screen. this is not something i knew about until recently but if your Vortex does this also be sure to tap where you want to focus though this may be difficult to hold the phone where you want it and reach in and tap the screen in just the right spot</p>

<p>Barry, have you given any consideration to a cell phone tripod? they work well but can run into issues if your phone is too wide.<br>

here is an example photo of mine holding my old samsung mythic. unfortunately my lumia 920 is much to wide to work<br>

<img src="http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn291/killablelaw13/WP_20130516_001_zpsc6a197d5.jpg" alt="" /></p>

<p>Liane,<br>

i used to love my LGs for there camera! you should have a butt load of settings in an Android.<br>

a photo timing app will just give you a countdown to when the photo will snap the photo at like 3, 5, 10 second timer. as far as i have seen no app with give you settings if you dont have them things like that are normally up to the maker. </p>

<p>Gup, thank you for such a great response and your pros and cons, sometimes is does seem as if a certain phone may be more suited for a specific type of photos than other. You do indeed to like you blackberry very much, what are your thoughts of the Z10? I cant recall off hand when it will be released (here's hoping I'm not behind and its already dropped) being blackberrys reinvention into the big league of touchscreen smart phones or "mico tablets" as I like to call them, is this going to be a device you are interested in?</p>

<p>John, it slipped my mind, i was meaning to ask what phone you use?</p>

<p>Micheal,<br>

i didnt not take anything personally and i understood what you were getting at.<br>

thank you very much for your critique! i see that you found the background surprising. when i take non light box staged photos of watches i like them to be in surrounding that is actually suited to the particular model this one being a Pro Diver Scuba so the lake background was suited to the piece.<br>

there is one issue with the photo though and that is that the hands of the watch are not balanced at 10:10 but i find it to be a complete pain to have to reset a watch to take a photo of it then set it to put it back on! also, you and many others may be surprised to discover how difficult it actually is to take a very good quality photo of a watch!!</p>

<p>John H,<br>

i kind of want that photo now so i can tag a whole bunch of people in it!! it does however sound like a good time to have used your phone and not the dslr which may have become awkward standing in the parking lot taking photos of the back if a car you were in fact NOT just in an accident with.<br>

as to your previous comment about the RAW support on cell phones, to be honest i actually have no idea what RAW is.</p>

<p>Edwin, i see you are using an iPhone 5, i have heard that the camera is not as good as the 4 but your photo is fantastic!<br>

as to your low light issue there is a solution.. Nokia is making fantastic leaps in this department..<br>

this photo was taken in a non lit room with almost no ambient light sources with my f- set to 2 and my iso set to 800, i did have the focus assist off for this photo which causes the blurriness, on the nokia lumia WP8 the "focus assist" flashes the flash to focus the lens and then shuts off.. well if you have the flash turned off, i was testing the phones ability of taking a "lume shot" so i had it off.. but as you can see the frame in the background is completely visible even in the very very low light<br>

<img src="http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn291/killablelaw13/WP_20130312_005_zpsdc506130.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="576" /></p>

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<p>Did something happen to you? I've never seen anyone on pnet put down phone pics. Heck we even have a dedicated forum for them.</p>

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<p>Louis,<br>

The main reason i decided to become a Pnet member is because of it having a dedicated phone area, in a long search of trying to find a photo forum i liked many places i visited the words "cell phone" would make the uses scatter like roaches!<br>

i must say though that i still feel a bit out of place here being that my primary photographic passion is taking photos of time pieces which frankly , most people find weird..</p>

<p>Michael,<br>

I understand what you are saying about the canned app scenario, i have tried countless photo editor apps to try to find one that isnt just "slap" there's your filter. the best i have found is "Thumba" besides having many filters it does give you options to alter the degree of many of the filters, unless im going all out for fun i normally still to B&W or Lomo to keep things simple and not distract from the photo itself..<br>

personally i asked for critiques to learn from those who know better, i have some issues with one of my eyes so something that may look great to me to others may be for instance too off centered for the photo to flow properly.. for me asking i would most like critiques on my framing and lighting/brightness, for others that may just want some gratification of a job well done.<br>

in my own experience and looking through the photos in the link you provided i am currently at a conclusion of a major downfall in the camera phone.. sunsets, or more so the colors a phone camera can capture of a sunset.<br>

here is a critique i just did before writing all this ^<br>

<a href="/photo/10335812">http://www.photo.net/photo/10335812</a></p>

<p>one last note: i am very surprised to find out what you say of many have a lack of training! it appears i am naive.. </p>

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<p>Jon, you've asked for 2 critiques and have not offered any to others. I challenge you to critique any of the following cellphone photos and provide us with a link to it: <br /> <a href="/gallery/tag-search/search?query_string=iphone&sort_order=3" rel="nofollow">http://www.photo.net/gallery/tag-search/search?query_string=iphone&sort_order=3</a></p>

<p>Michael, I have been meaning to do this but it seems i come up at a loss for words.. i just dont want to be a guy who says "i like it, thats cool". i have no actual photographic training or schooling, i did take a photography class in HS but only learned how do develop B&W, but any way i think it puts me at a loss of an educated critique. but i will try my best and accept your challenge.. i do however notice that those photos are iphone, being im a n00b i dont know the site very well at all, are there more phone sub categories other than iphone? </p>

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<p> Today almost every person from 6-90 has a cell phone and a mass majority of those being cutting edge smart phones with absolutely amazing cameras! With the quality of cell phone cameras being great and only getting better, i ask you, the photographers. Why do or don't you use your cell phones camera? what opinions do you have toward the camera phone and the camera phone photographer?<br>

It seems to me that some photographers look down upon those who use a cell phone to take pictures with a sort of attitude as to say "you're not a photographer because you use a phone" without actually critiquing the photo properly. IMO this is rubbish, a photographers eye is the important thing, the equipment does take a part but even a good photographer can take a good photo with a 2mp camera with no camera settings!<br>

All input is very welcome pro or con. in fact i would like to hear some negative comments and hopefully help change some stubborn minds to give there phones camera a real honest try!<br>

thank you all or reading!</p>

<p>Allen,<br>

thank you for your response. please keep in mind this was a thread for a different forum and for people who are not per-say "photographers" but what collectors, a lot of which don't realize cleaning the lens on there phones will immediately improve there photos. to some people the best they "think" they can do is a shaky blurry smeared photo and this thread above i wrote up so they could get better and not have the need to justify a bad photo.. </p>

<p>i wrote this up for my watch forum last year, i think that this may be the perfect place to share what i came up with.. it is a bit goofy but fun is always good! please feel free to share your thoughts and thank you for looking!</p>

<p><strong>101 to quality cell phone pics</strong></p>

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Say geeks, have you ever taken a pic with your cell phone and felt like the photo had to be accompanied by "sorry for the bad cell pic"? well guess what, now days the cell phone camera is a very powerful tool right in your pocket!!!<br /> <br /> My goal here is to hopefully help anybody with a cell phone who wants to take better photos with it. unfortunately we don't all have smart phones, but i hope whether you carry a older phone with a very iffy camera or the top camera phone most have never heard of.. the LG C900 Viewity! this thing is actually a camera with a phone built in.. even including Nikkor lenses!<br /> <br /> Alright on to it. to fallow I will give you all some tips and pointers that you may or may not be able to use with your camera phone..<br /> <br /> The biggest advice i could ever possibly give anybody taking a pic with a phone....CLEAN YOUR LENS!! whether with your shirt or a micro fiber cloth (yeah i know you carry one in your pocket to keep that watch clean.) After all the lens is one of if not thee most important part of any camera, just before you take that pic, even a quick wrist shot, give that little buddy a rub down with something soft!!<br /> <br /> SETTINGS, dont be scared, get to know them. you may find something very useful hiding in there, for instance some of you may have a "anti-shake" feature.. if you do, turn it on and leave it on!<br /> within almost all camera phone settings there are two that are very important QUALITY and SIZE, turn these both up as far as they go!! (But RDM, why do i want to make the size bigger?) well simply enough said.. the bigger the photo, the more pixels and more pixels means the photo will be more clear when blown up from your tiny cell phone screen to a computer screen.. also some photo editing apps/software or 3rd party hosting sites will compress your photos, sometimes even by more than half! so once again bigger is better!<br /> <br /> PHOTO EDITING APPS/SOFTWARE and your 3rd PARTY SHARING SITE<br /> another one of these don't be scared places to be.. though not needed for taking good photos, they can be very helpful to make your good photos better (but not in all cases)<br /> depending on your marketplace you may have an extremely large selection of photo editing apps some for free some you have to pay for.. i personally use "thumba photo editor 3" play around and find one you like! within your selected photo editor or your photo sharing site there are many helpful tools, like CROP for that "Oh i didnt notice that ugly car driving past" or since many phones do not have the ability to capture what i will call "true color" or the colors you see with your eyes, there are COLOR, CONTRAST, HUE, SATURATION, and BRIGHTNESS edits/adjustments you can make to get your pic back to those great colors you saw! not all photos are great in color though, why not try out a GREY SCALE/ B&W or SEPIA to get that right dimension you want..<br /> <br /> Okay, so now you actually want to take a picture. GOOD!<br /> You cleaned your lens right?<br /> You've got all your setting set how you want?<br /> "Well RMD, i'm all set up, but i don't have a anti-shake option and i drank too much coffee this morning and im all shaky!"<br /> Alright, ive got some tips for that also. 3 tips as a matter of fact..<br /> 1.) though it may require a change in location, find something to rest against, or to rest your hands on.. this will act kind of like a tripod and help stable your jittery coffee hands.<br /> 2. well 2 and 3 kinda work on the same concept.. does your phone have an actual camera button you use for taking the pic? YES<br /> is it a smart phone with a touch screen? YES<br /> alright, tap the screen... did it take a pic? YES<br /> well alright then, since reaching for and putting the pressure down to push the button can make you wibble wobble all over, use the option to just touch the screen instead. it will keep more control in your hands of holding your camera in place.<br /> If your answers were NO to all that about touch screens and taping and all that, here is one more option.. go to your settings, go to timer (of you have a smart phone that you for whatever reason cant take a pic by touching the screen and dont have a timer in your settings, go to your app store and get a photo timer.)<br /> alright, is everybody set? alright. choose a timer setting that is long enough for you to get into place but not so long that your not standing there like a fool waiting for your phone to take a pic! 5 seconds should be a good time.. now you dont have to worry about pushing any buttons and can put all you attention to not shaking your phone around like you're at a rave..<br /> <br /> that concludes my tips, if i missed something please feel free to add a post with your tip that i forgot <img title="Head slapper" src="http://watchgeeks.net/images/smilies/EMOEMEmbarrassed05HL2.gif" alt="" border="0" /><br /> if you would just like to add something in general, well this is a forum so go right ahead!<br /> <br /> thank you for reading, and i very hope somebody finds this helpful!<br /> <br /> <br /> Jon aka RussianDiveMaster

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<p>Thank you for this info Glen, absolutely great to know!</p>