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  1. In the 6 years since the OP asked the question I've never been able yet to find the answer to it. Responders asked for examples but go to any any fashion site such as the "The Fashionography" "Fashion gone rogue" or "Market Place Lookbooks" and you find that the vast majority of the photos there are exactly as the OP describes easy on the eye flat(ish) lower contrast yet sharp. It appears to be a general technique rather than a particular individual style. So in the intervening time has anyone perhaps stumbled upon the answer to the OP's question?
  2. <p>@Mark Chartrand<br>

    Some very conradictory points made there<br>

    <em>Don't we really want to see the best photographs that can be made?</em><br>

    If the above is true then why criticise on the basis of the past rather than the present<br>

    <em>Perhaps people are just defending themselves</em><br>

    Isnt this what the OP is doing "My photographers" "my portrait studio" who is really defensive ?<br>

    And who is to say that the photographs are substandard<br>

    Not everyone makes comments based on "self defense" some are based on principle<br>

    the principle that in painting, music, photography etc things move on leaving some scratching their heads.<br>

    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUU1I24tBbU&feature=related">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUU1I24tBbU&feature=related</a><br>

    Its a fact of artistic life<br>

    Some get it some dont</p>

     

  3. <p>Well the OP and everyone interested could check this out<br>

    <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/magazine/2009-inauguration-gallery/index.html">http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/magazine/2009-inauguration-gallery/index.html</a><br>

    In many ways it elicited a similar response from many viewers esp in the photographic community<br>

    In fact theres a 'is it just me' comment as you scroll down + a 'hack that does my kids' school photos could have done a better job'<br>

    What about the commentary? Is it just bull or serious stuff?<br>

    Is Kander a hack because they added a shadow via PS<br>

    Photography of this kind has simply moved on, its concerns are different, the viewers are different<br>

    There are no editors,publishing deadlines, and other shooting issues etc in portrait studios<br>

    The comments here show how just show how divided opinions can be.<br>

    ok try this to sidestep the emotion and photographic prejudice<br>

    <a href="

    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSz3ayqz5hI&feature=related">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSz3ayqz5hI&feature=related</a><br>

    First is Benny Goodman Whispering<br>

    2nd is Dizzy Gillespie and Charlie Parker Groovin High<br>

    The chord changes are almost identical but jazz was moving on the players were thinking differently<br>

    this is the wiki entry<br>

    <em>First published on the 1945 album </em><a title="Shaw 'Nuff (page does not exist)" href="../w/index.php?title=Shaw_%27Nuff&action=edit&redlink=1"><em>Shaw 'Nuff</em></a><em>,<sup id="cite_ref-4" ><a href="#cite_note-4">[5]</a></sup> the song is one of seven on that album that, according to jazz critic </em><a title="Scott Yanow" href="../wiki/Scott_Yanow"><em>Scott Yanow</em></a><em>, "shocked" Gillespie's contemporaries, contributing to that album's "permanently [changing]...jazz and (indirectly) the entire music world".<sup id="cite_ref-5" ><a href="#cite_note-5">[6]</a></sup> In Jazz: A Regional Exploration, Yanow explained that at the time such songs "were unprecedented...displaying a radically different language" from contemporary </em><a title="Swing (music)" href="../wiki/Swing_(music)"><em>swing</em></a><em>.<sup id="cite_ref-Yanow_6-0" ><a href="#cite_note-Yanow-6">[7]</a></sup> But though fans and fellow musicians found the material "very strange and difficult", The Sax & Brass Book notes, they were quickly adopted as classics.<sup id="cite_ref-7" ><a href="#cite_note-7">[8]</a></sup> According to Yanow, "Parker and Gillespie's solos seemed to have little relation to the melody, but they were connected. It was a giant step forward for jazz".<sup id="cite_ref-Yanow_6-1" ><a href="#cite_note-Yanow-6">[7]</a></sup></em><br>

    <em>Thomas Owens highlights the innovative use of source material, pointing out that while it was not uncommon for jazz musicians to utilize existing chord structures in their compositions in 1945, Gillespie's "melodic contrafact was the most complex jazz melody superimposed on a pre-existing chordal scheme", "atypically elaborate".<sup id="cite_ref-Owens_2-1" ><a href="#cite_note-Owens-2">[3]</a></sup></em><br>

    ok so how many players were asking "Is it just me" "Am I missing something" "My kids school band could do better"<br>

    Things move on and will continue to do<br>

    so yes its is you, this is the point you're missing</p>

  4. <p>Its just you<br>

    The photographer here probably had a minute or less to take each picture' It would be simply walk in and walk out.<br>

    Next they're "celebrities" most of whom have just had an ego boost with an award, try telling them' hey that pose is too stilted can you give me something else?<br>

    Shooting "portraits" of famous is not simply portraits as in "my own portrait studio"<br>

    How many major celebrities did your photographers have to deal with in minimal time and space.<br>

    <a href="

    one wrong move<br>

    get them in get it done get them out</p>

  5. <p>whoever shot was very Influenced by Helmut Newton eg the crutches<br>

    in some of the frames.<br>

    Newton always used film not digital, in fact to the end of his career he used cheap canon anf minoltas.<br>

    There are plenty of vids on youtube of Newton in action.<br>

    But, this is the point, he almost always shot at mid-day under the noon sun<br>

    just as your sample shooter did.<br>

    Thats how you get the contrast you require.<br>

    Its as simple as that.</p>

  6. <p>1. Usually the photographer mostly does the directing. The stylist and model might offer suggestions once they know/see which way the photographers idea is going.<br>

    Look at this <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9wkCLkVWcI">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9wkCLkVWcI</a><br>

    its in 5 parts and theyre all interesting especially if youve never seen a fashion photographer work and supermodels posing.<br>

    In a general sense the pose has to work with the garment which is the important thing. The session should assign an attitude to the clothes which offers them to the buying segment of the public.<br>

    Be careful with overposing: making clothes which are obviousley for a catalogue market attempting to be couture or high fashion.<br>

    Think about the garment its line size shape texture colour etc and build poses around what you want to emphasise, plus emotional appeal eg furs spell luxury silk sleekness etc etc. Backgrounds and props have to harmonise or contrast with main subject<br>

    Or the clothes could emphasise the busy life of a successful woman so energy, authority etc etc<br>

    a while back Donna Karans model Rosemary McGrothe posed as a female president to get that message across.<br>

    If you were photographing for a magazine it would have to be in that magazines style because the purpose of the photography is to give kudos to the mag<br>

    It really cant be learned you just put it all together depending what you have in front of you.<br>

    Go to<br>

    <a href="http://www.artandcommerce.com/aac/C.aspx?VP=Mod_StaticPage.StaticPage_VPage&SP=home&HN=T">http://www.artandcommerce.com/aac/C.aspx?VP=Mod_StaticPage.StaticPage_VPage&SP=home&HN=T</a><br>

    click on image archive and select some photographer eg steven meisel<br>

    See if you can see any of the above things in any of the pictures</p><div>00V067-190269584.jpg.d2ad04da23c5ef31abc039f076ebfde1.jpg</div>

  7. Read this and wondered what others might think.

     

    http://www.slate.com/id/2167722/

     

    A while back when shooting video in the presence of a noted PJ style shooter. I noticed we seemed to be doing the

    same thing from the same place.

    There was very little "formal" photography.

     

    I noted the point about so called Wedding PJs "setting things up".

     

    Actually this may be the way to go with the increasing sophistication of an ever more aware public thats craves

    some sort of celebrity.

  8. <p>Get a good position and keep it<br>

    even if it means getting to the show early<br>

    directly in front of the runway but high up front view is best for reporting the clothes<br>

    check the show lighting<br>

    avoid using flash its only good for backstage <br>

    shoot wide open at f2.8 on the 80-200 dont bother with the other lens<br>

    raise the iso to 800+ runway pictures are rarely enlarged to any great size<br>

    google style.com click fashion show<br>

    note how all the pictures look pretty much the same<br>

    front foot on the floor, dont want to see the soles of feet<br>

    dont zoom in and out find the frame and stick with it<br>

    get the modelwalking rythym and shot a burst when they approach the spot<br>

    a monopod will help<br>

    you can do trendy pictures with a mixture of flash and blurs and slow speeds<br>

    but style.com is the traditional way of reporting runway fashion</p>

  9. <p>Basically you have to make best use of what you have.<br>

    A lot can be done however to make good pictures.<br>

    The advice given would be good for students starting on a career path, kids<br>

    but its no use to me and to most shooters who want shoot clothes witha fashion esthetic<br>

    The worst advice to an out of town shooter is to read and copy magazine pages.<br>

    Well maybe not if you have no feeling for what you are doing and maybe want to get girls in front of the camera.<br>

    Question: Do you have any opinion about what fashion should be and any statement about the women who wear it and their lives.<br>

    Would you be happy if people said both thats a great pictutre AND where can I buy that garment.<br>

    Even if youre not actually shooting for clients that kind of thinking can improve the pictures and youre not even looking at a magazine.<br>

    Maybe you cant get couture dresses but what have you got. How would you assign the right attitude to it, the dress and get you model to do the same.<br>

    Problem here which comes first. If its the clothes then the model has to be casted if its the model then<br>

    the clothes have to look right for her look.<br>

    Its things like these that make things look out of town.<br>

    the picture idea has to fit. Trying to photograph in a style thats not you usually results in bad work<br>

    Who are you? whats your take on life? What kind of art do you like? cds you listen to? films etc etc<br>

    If theres a common thread then thats the style you should photograph.<br>

    Actually most major magazine photography looks the same, as does the trendy boutique mags<br>

    weird clothes hair and make up which no one wears, couture dresses? who wears them about 30 women all over the age of 40.<br>

    Anyway whats wrong with having a local style of fashion photography.<br>

    There was a Liverpool sound in the 60s a Seattle sound a San Francisco sound. If all these non proximal shooters could get their minds off NYC and focus on their own communites there should be some interesting work done.Its not the fact of waht you dont have near you its using the limitations to produce interesting looking fashion pictures<br>

    Still we get NYC Paris Milan London most folks shoot the same way in these places so they can have a little piece of the same cake.<br>

    If i watch Jeter and A-Rod week in week out Am I actually going to end up playing like them when Im not going to get the opportunity.<br>

    Time moves on: All those 80/90s supermodel pictures looked great in their time but now the perfection and polish looks overdone. It has no appeal to modernity. Fashion is more democratic and has to reflect attitudes and times now.<br>

    Fashion photographers shoot as much with their minds as they do with there eyes.<br>

    You dont have to be in NYC Paris or Milan to do that<br>

    g </p>

     

  10. <p>Youre welcome<br>

    my post to you was based on a quote which I forgot to include<br>

    Its by Owen Roizman<br>

    He was the cinematographer on French Connection, Taking of Pelham 123 (original)<br>

    and The Exorcist.<br>

    "Style really comes from taste. If you try something and you dont like it, you'd better abandon it because otherwise you're going to find yourself in a rut that you'll never get out of. If you like it, then you just have to perfect it and make it work for you. You also have to be able to vary it and apply it to the material at hand."<br>

    g</p>

  11. <p>Youre welcome<br>

    my post to you was based on a quote which I forgot to include<br>

    Its by Owen Roizman<br>

    He was the cinematographer on French Connection, Taking of Pelham 123 (original)<br>

    and The Exorcist.<br>

    "Style really comes from taste. If you try something and you dont like it, you'd better abandon it because otherwise you're going to find yourself in a rut that you'll never get out of. If you like it, then you just have to perfect it and make it work for you. You also have to be able to vary it and apply it to the material at hand."<br>

    g</p>

  12. <p>Read this:http://fashionfotonotes.blogspot.com/2006/01/fashion-idea.html<br>

    theres a slightly different version<br>

    Your interested in fashion what you need to think about is a style and a signature<br>

    Its to do with the way you see the world in this instance the fashion world<br>

    Its certainly very little to do with books on lighting and equipment but more about<br>

    how you REALLY feel about fashion portraits and people<br>

    Show on the outside how you feel about it inside.<br>

    Ask yourself who you are and stick with this for you picture style.<br>

    eg as an excercise make a list of you favourite music tracks, favourite films, books, art pictures, food<br>

    why do you like these, is there a common thread running through them.<br>

    If there is you should photograph all fashion and portraits in that style which could be artstyle,romantic painterly, aggressive, decadent etc etc<br>

    Just dont try to photograph in a style thats not you, itll never work.<br>

    Dont fall into the trap of waiting for the next issue of POP, IV, Surface to see whats to be done<br>

    just check out whats going on in books art exhibitions, film TV peoples feelings about life in general<br>

    their needs desires and aspirations.<br>

    Then convert that information into your fashion idea remebering theres more to life than trendy editorial<br>

    portrait: listen to this audio from PLATON <a href="http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/?s=platon">http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/?s=platon</a><br>

    watch this RICHARD AVEDON interview where he talks about paying attention<br>

    <a href="http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/3973">http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/3973</a><br>

    Steven Shores art pictures <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8kuBc27VO8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo%2Egoogle%2Eco%2Euk%2Fvideosearch%3Fhl%3Den%26q%3DSteven%2520Shore%26um%3D1%26ie%3DUTF%2D8%26sa%3DN%26tab%3Dwv&feature=player_embedded">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8kuBc27VO8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo%2Egoogle%2Eco%2Euk%2Fvideosearch%3Fhl%3Den%26q%3DSteven%2520Shore%26um%3D1%26ie%3DUTF%2D8%26sa%3DN%26tab%3Dwv&feature=player_embedded</a><br>

    he talks about really looking, a fascination how people live, paying attention<br>

    If you take on board these ideas youll see progress in no time<br>

    good luck</p>

    <p>g</p>

    <p> </p>

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