alwin_lai

<p>One of the most fundamental basic difference when using a high density pixel cropped camera like the 7d is to ensure your Tv is at least 1/FLx1.6. If you employ the same technique that of film or FF camera, you may end up with shake which can be mistaken as soft images.<br>

Note that the AA filter on the 7d is a bit heavy handed. So its files requires more sharpening than the 5d2.</p>

<p>If the 6d were to have the 7d's AF system, then what's the point of the 5d3? Oh yeah 1/4000th, SD card, single-function buttons....etc<br /><br />The 7d is a very capable camera. However the pixel density means you have to be good at nailing the exposure or it will eat you alive.<br />I think partnering the 5d2 with a 7d makes for a great combo. They even share the same battery.<br>

Else you can also consider a used 1d3. Is 10mp enough?</p>

For pure photographical goodness behest of any doodads, few can best the 5d. It is abit archaic to use and a bit frumpy compared to newer cameras. But the images are superb.

I spent sometime with a Nikon D7000 (I presume that's what you are referring as opposed to a N7000), and I am not impressed with the handling. Small body with buttons cramped on it. It reminds me of a Rebel. I know Dx0 says its sensor is awesome and whatnot. However in actual real world usage, I don't see any different compared to any APS-C images.

 

What makes the 5dc great is its raw files. They are so maleable and takes abuses very well. Don't know why. If you don't need the bells and whistles of newer cameras, the 5d is nice photography device.

<p>Folks please visit some Nikon forums. There are a raft of issues with the D800 and D4. From full-blown freezes to mediocre LV implementation. With some LCDs showing green cast. The D800 issues make the light leak of the 5d3 looks superficial in a kindergarten pettiness.<br>

Perhaps Canon wants to avoid those fiasco. </p>

<p>the older mk I has the following over the mk II:<br>

- metal mount<br>

- better focus ring<br>

- distance scale<br>

<br />It feels more akin to the ef 50mm 1.4 in terms of touch and feel.</p>

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<p>AND I am loosing time waiting for parents to log on and look at the pictures, which is also a huge problem, as I don't have that much time to begin with.</p>

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<p>I don't understand what you mean. There is no time impact on you once the photos are on the gallery. The onus is on the parents to get on the computer, click on that link you provided and either Add to Cart or not. This whole process could happen while you are having dinner or at the grocery store. So I don't see what time issue you have apart from the waiting.<br>

We do some school shoot every year. It's not our main service (mainly portraits) but every so often some schools like our work and wants us to shoot for them. Our approach is to make sure the school and its parents are a right fit for our photography. If they are, then we work together to promote it. Our sample photos are put up ahead of time to give an idea of what to expect by the parents. They get excited. School distributes pre-order forms. We only shoot those that PAID upfront prior to the photoshoot. Works well for our overall workflow. No waits, no proofs, no online. They get the very best pick from us. Our pre-order rate is around 80-100%. <br />Some parents will ask to see if they are more photos of their child. We work through that on a case by case basis. <br>

School shoot is not our primary focus, so we want to keep it simple and proceed along efficiently.</p>

<p>If they are builders then you are in for a treat. That means taking photos of show homes with staged furniture. Will they be using your photos for various marketing medium? Have you thought about the licensing fees associated to that?<br>

It's not like shooting some pix and hand the small size files to the realtor.<br>

Anyways when I used to do real estate photography, I charge by size and distance. </p>

<p>Fred Miranda did complain about the D800's LV issue which is a big deal for landscape photographers. I presume even for macro work. Sounds like Nikon has a poor implementation of LV according to the Nikon forumers there apart from the D7000.<br>

Anyway a camera is sum of its parts. In this respect, the 5d3 is a better fit for me. It has the speed, buffer size, reconfigurable buttons (like 7D), advanced AF and less moire. DR is the only thing that the D800 has going for it. Oh the pop flash for CLS is also great. I shoot weddings/pj-style portraits, to me the 5d3 better. But if I am a landscape purist then the D800 make sense. However I'd join that chorus of complainers about the poor LV implementation in the D800. <br>

And finally as a system, Canon still holds the edge for completeness.</p>

 

<p>For me it's usually around 2 weeks. I will often send the clients a coupla teaser images a few days after the shoot.<br>

If you mean from start to final delivery. It depends. Most of my clients want albums, it can take as long as 2-3 months. Alot also depends on client responses and change requests for album layouts.</p>

<p>The 17-40L is one of those lens where either you love its colour, user experience and sharpness or you just don't get the zoom range in which case you will likely end up with a 24-70 f2.8 zoom lens.<br>

It's a wonderful UWA for a full frame. OK walk around lens for crop. Use in conjunction with say a 7d or 1d series and you have a fully sealed system.</p>

<p>How can the 7d be a flop when it outsells its competition in that class of cameras? It is still the top dog in the pro-sumer compact cropped body. Nikon has yet to match nor beat it yet after 3 years. Where art though D400?</p>

<p>Eh? If a D800 with its 36mp will blow away a 22mp 5d3 which sounds even ludicrous by everyone except the most extreme Nikon fanboy, then the 21MP 5d2 must've been blowing away the 12mp D700 for years.<br>

I don't mind larger MP. But not at the detriment to IQ and ISO noise. I am glad Canon showed restrain and kept the MP where it's at. The 5d3 is shaping to be an outstanding well balanced FF camera.</p>

<p>Stop reading charts and numbers. Instead look at real life images. What does that tell you?<br>

Lower res cameras often show less noise. Due to lower detail, one can also get away with image imperfections.<br>

7D is fine camera.</p>

 

<p>5d3 seems to check all the boxes I have except for flash commander found in the 7d. I don't get it since the d800 does accommodate pop up flash for CLS. Is the D800 100% VF?<br>

I'll wait a year or two before getting one though. No need to rush.</p>

 

<p>There are already grumblings in the Nikon camp about high ISO images with the D800. Also the need for top end Nikkors which Nikon hasn't been on the ball as much as Canon.</p>

<p>While the D800 spec list is impressive. It is nothing revolutionary. Here's what revolutionary.</p>

<p>2005. Canon came out with a compact full frame EOS dslr. It was a time when no one knew what to think of it. Nikon itself said FF in a dslr is niche and that DX is the way to go. Guess what, everybody loved the 5D's images. It sold like crazy.<br /> 2008. After seeing the sales success of the EOS 5D and hearing the cries of many Nikon owners, Nikon popped out the 12MP D700 and relish its success to able to deliver a compact FF benchmarked against a near 4-yr old EOS 5D.<br /> Months later, Canon showed up with the 5d2 that not only boasts a large 21MP sensor it also takes HD videos. Guess what? It took the indie movie making world by storm. It left Nikon WTF-ing at its own D700. HDSLR segment is hot and its growing. People are buying the 5d2/7D just for movie making. Support systems grew around these Canon cameras. Nikon is nowhere to be found.<br /> 2012... 4 years later Nikon finally came out with a FF compact camera that can shoot HD videos too with even more MP. Two base features that the 4-year old 5d2 already had. Based on past history, it is Canon that's doing the game changing. Nikon's merely trying to emulate and keep up.</p>

<p>Well what camera are you using? Is it really old? Are you hindered by it?</p>

<p>You don't have to wait that long. I saw D700 in my local CL asking for $1500.</p>

<p>I have both. The 5dc is a great camera when it came out and still delivers today after 6 years! In fact the picture quality still beat out lots of newer camera. Prime + 5dc = magical images! I love it. If mine breaks or got stolen, I will go out and buy another one. This camera does not have all the bells and whistles as the current crop of cameras which I like. As a pure unadulterated image making tool, the 5dc is hard to beat. Image files are highly maleable. Even the 5d2's does not take PP abuse as much as the 5dc's. I kid you not!<br>

The 7D is a modern camera. Still the best compact crop camera today since its introduction. No direct competition from Nikon or Sony. This is a fast camera with a plethora of customizable options. Big difference from the 5dc. If you are into shooting fast erratic movers, this is it. The AF performance is 2nd only to the 1dIV. Leagues ahead of other EOS cameras. Having said that, the 7D has a higher learning curve than most other EOS cameras. Set it up right and you will be rewarded. Use it as any other EOS camera then you will not see a difference. Combine with its re-configurable buttons, CFn AF options etc.... the 7D will react to quickly changing situations with ease.<br>

It is a tough choice. For me, the DoF and malleability of the image files makes the 5d a great choice for low light and portraits. The 7D is more picky. You need high end lens to pair with it whereas the 5d can deliver beautiful photos even with older lens. 5dc + 50 1.8 mkI is my portrait workhorse. But I do honestly feel as a general purpose camera, the 7D is more versatile. You get hdslr too. Canon has now included on-board flash commander with the 7D which is great for multi-strobe set up.</p>

<p>From a pure still image capture device the 5D is very good. To the point that I really don't see the need for a 5d2. I started shooting with film, so I don't chimp all the time. In fact I have now switched off auto review feature. In terms of AF, there are no difference as they both use the same AF system. Some say the 5d2 is markedly better but have not seen any empirical differences.<br>

The features that both the 5d/5d2 lacks like great AF and remote flash commander is now being compensated by my 7D. Both are slow compared to the 7D. I feel that I have a good coverage for my type of photography. For portraits, the 5dc delivers. For fast movers, the 7D comes out. And with the 7D I get extra reach.<br>

The only real quality that I want from the 5d2 is its 21MP. I do alot of large album spreads and the 12.8MP is just adequate as long as I don't crop too much.<br>

I'll wait for the 5d3. But for now the 5dc satisfies.</p>

<p>FYI the EF 50 1.4 doesn't have ring USM it is micro motor. Just as noisy and lesser quality than the true Ring-type USM.<br /> Currently have the vintage 50mm mkI. I'd thinking to get the Sigma 50 1.4 actually.</p>

<p>The 60d felt more solid than the buttons galore d7000. The nikon felt small and cramped.<br>

I used the d90 a coupla times and it is fine. The EOS 60d felt cleaner in its layout. I much prefer the dx00 series though.</p>

<p>For hdslr, Canon has Nikon beat since 2008. Look at the many hdslr sites and the go to cameras are the 5d2 and 7D. 60D is seeing lots of interests because of the swivel screen.</p>

<p>The 50d is a capable camera. A bit underrated.... means great as a used camera. Reminds me of the Porsche 964. =)<br>

Anyways, the 7D is definitely better camera and it has to since it is considered a level above the x0d. As others have mentioned about the 7D's advantages, one sorely missing featureset that I absolutely love over and above all other compact EOS dslr and even some 1d-series is the 7d's button customizations. It allows me to be more efficient. Able to switch from one-shot to AI Servo with one button without looking is great for me.<br>

Also if you are into OCF, the 7d's flash commander is handy. Saved me a couple $$ and put towards more slave units. That e-leveler is darn cool and has helped me when I set up tripod shots for architecture and what not.<br>

But if all you do is use single point AF then the 7D might not be for you. Its strength is its robust AF architecture. If you think about it, the 7D is a compact version of the 1dIV. Go read up on the CPN Europe articles. Their AF concepts are similar! Very cool.</p>

<p>Have you check the Cfn where it overrides your exposure to get the proper exposure? I forgot the terminology. Look it up in the manual.<br>

The only time the fps rate changes is when the buffer is full. Are you shooting max RAW? I think the 7D can shoot in perpetuity if set to M jpg. hahaha...</p>

<p>I had a YN468 ETTL. It was cheap. Power was adequate. Works fine with my 7d and 5d. However it is optical slave only. And therefore don't play with my other Canon speedlites.<br>

I've since upgraded to the 565ex which is quite powerful on par with my 580exII. It can read wireless signal. Couldn't be happier! The build quality is much better than other Yongnuo flashes. In fact at a glance, one would be hard pressed to tell the 550/580ex from this 565ex.</p>

<p>Most of any hardware issue has can be attributed to the operator.<br>

7D's AF is pretty sophisticated and very capable. Please read the manual and watch the many tutorials to understand its capabilities.<br>

What gets me are folks that set the AF sensitivity to max and then use AI Servo. Then goes on to complain that AF is all out. Gee.... hmm.... I wonder.</p>