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<p>for those keeping score at home the first (damaged) lens was returned and i bought an undamaged 60mm f2.8 D. it came today and is doing fine with both the N80 and the D7000. just like it's supposed to. more testing and playing will happen over the weekend.</p>

<p>thanks again for the advice. </p>

<p>Elliot they do don't they. just filing a claim was enough for the seller to rethink their position. now the remaining question is where to ship it.<br>

i don't know if the seller knew it was damaged, they had been using it with a D90 and they say it worked fine. with that camera it would. while i feel sorry for them having a damaged lens that wasn't what i agreed to buy. </p>

<p>idle info, the D90 lens mount has a small protrusion at 8:00 o'clock that senses the lens aperture ring. the 60mm D lens has a corresponding protrusion on the aperture ring. however with the D7000 they moved that to 2:00 o'clock and got rid of the one at 8. as mentioned above the lens works with the D5100's sensor which is at 8 but that camera has no body focus motor. and as you have figured out the N80 has the 8:00 o'clock sensor too.<br>

so is everybody on board now? there will be a quiz later. </p>

<p>Shun it probably is and there are folks that sell the aperture ring. they even provide instructions :) and before i send it to nikon i may try that.<br>

BUT when you see this: "Solid lens in great condition." in the listing you don't expect to have to repair it. right now the seller hasn't answered my latest email when i turned down a 10% refund. that wouldn't even cover the new aperture ring. </p>

<p>Eric here are two. the one with the lenses laying down shows the damage best. the one with them upright shows the shoulder best. when i/you/we look at these it's like DUH it's broke but IRL it wasn't that noticeable. and to be honest not where i was looking for a problem. thanks Jenny at Lakeside Camera :)<br>

the lens on the left is a Quantaray 28-90 D with nikon mount (really dave? yes really)<br>

<img src="http://www.davesweblife.com/images/stuff%20for%20friends/damaged-lens_01.jpg" alt="" /><br>

<img src="http://www.davesweblife.com/images/stuff%20for%20friends/damaged-lens_02.jpg" alt="" /></p>

<p>ok took another look at the spot the dealer pointed out and the same spot on another D lens. there is definitely missing shoulder there. the shoulder should extend past the smallest aperture and to almost past underneath the next smallest. both my other D lenses do that. <br>

wrote to the lady i bought it from. her pictures when she sold it show the damage and i didn't see it. so we shall see what happens now. thanks for everybody's input. </p>

<p>Kari i'm not getting a mental picture of what your describing. once the lens is mounted you can't do more that try twisting it tighter or just wiggling it. i've tried with the aperture locked and unlocked and nada.<br>

went to the local nikon store and they had just sold their last D7100 so couldn't try that. the lady i talked to looked, poked, prodded and ask the questions we have to no avail. she did find a small damaged spot i hadn't seen that might be the cause. i'll have to look into that. </p>

<p>Kari rocking it either way does nothing. i've tried with the ring locked and un locked and can't find a sweet spot. <br>

time for work. later</p>

<p>thanks all,<br>

the extension tube didn't change anything. i'm going to try and get to the (semi) local nikon dealer this afternoon.</p>

<p>Elliot OK<br>

and here i thought i was doing well to have both a N80 and D5100 beyond the D7000 :)<br>

to be serious i have no idea who i know that might have one. i will be seeing some other photographers sunday so one of them might. also i thought about going to the local dealer but that's 40 miles from here. </p>

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<p>Hector lacking a Pec-Pad i just tried a Zeiss lens cloth. pre moistened no less. didn't work. <br>

and being an avid computer person i always check if the "cable is plugged it". thanks anyway. </p>

<p>Shun Cheung both the camera and the lens work just not together. so i'm thinking the contacts are clean.<a href="/photodb/user?user_id=24372"><br /></a><br>

Oksana Andersen that sounds more likely but less easy to fix. :) any setting including auto gets the error. just remounted the lens to the D5100 shooting in manual and it was fine in both P and A modes. in A i could change the aperture and have it reflected is matching shutter speeds so i'm thinking it was communicating with that camera. </p>

<p>just bought a used nikon micro 60mm f2.8 D lens on ebay. it works as it should with a nikon N80 in both auto focus and manual. it works in manual only with a D5100 which is what you would expect. with my D7000 i get a fEE Lens aperture ring is not set to minimum aperture. problem is that the lens is set and locked.<br>

<br />the D7000 works fine with two other D nikon lenses i have. any ideas welcomed.</p>