alan_gw

<p>hi all...</p>

<p>http://www.swanturton.com/multimedia/docs/Temple%20Island%20v%20New%20English%20photographs.pdf</p>

<p>seeing them side by side theyre very nearly the same, if you saw one or the other seperatly you'd asume both were the same image/ logo..</p>

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<p>so art being anything with that 'aura' as discribed above, be it clip art (old or new) oil, or printed gloss... the printed gloss/cyber aspect just being the carrier medium to relay the informasion..</p>

<p>or a photo...so it is art in it's own way if it's good enough,</p>

<p>a little late into the conversation, but the word 'artist' or the 'art' of something is pritty much an adjective discribing some one's ability to portray what they are doing, be it throwing a ball, painting a picture or even using words, it's an 'art' form.</p>

<p>most people have a secondry langauage in their mInds, e.g. the same word having both a dictionary meaning and a greater 'meaning' when used with other words, emfasis and gesture to make it 'something' more, in short, meaning something else thats only applicable to themselves or others that get the meaning within the conversation.(the words become their own)</p>

<p>so 'art' is an oil painting to one person, containing various variables or rules, to another its the 'freedom of art' to portray pritty much what ever you want to 'say' with that medium, the word medium meaning 'materials used to create a palet or texture or style, whichever words you chose to 'make the picture' 'make the model' or to make the visual 'thing' that someone looks at and likes, or just something you yourself likes, the rest is intent for a particular 'sector' which then concurrs rules and similarities etc.</p>

<p>a photogragh, or more to the point 'just a photogragh' is simply a mecanicle reproduction of a scene, photograghy is the art of making an image with the medium of a camera.<br>

A holiday snap shot is a mecanicle reproduction having meaning to any one who gets personaly involved or has any intrest in seeing nothing more than a recorded version of something. It's made 'something' by the veiwer, given a value if you like, the rules are simple enough for all to see, i.e. 'the missis semi clad with great tits' 'the big musium we saw' 'cute kid vomiting that ice cream we allllllll told um not to eat'.<br>

Art comes in when things are not as they seam, or depending on how you see it, created to give that 'value' facter of a moment, so already the rules start to become aparent, so already that 'just a photogragh' coment(implying no skill with a brush therefore not an artist) is incorect.<br>

Alas, to the woman the photogragh could have been picasso's left nipple preserved, but it was'nt an art work, so she didnt like it/wouldnt pay for that. It was a mecanicle 'reprint'.</p>

<p> As with all art's theres umpty seven ways to look at it, not including standing on your head or squinting in funny maners.... but at the end of the day the less you know the more some thing becomes 'pritty' not pritty'... 'like it' dont like it'... a real basic inanimate object that some one did not asign any 'value' to. The more you know the more it becomes a nice DOF, good scene, great exspresion captured, all the things we'd apply to anything, be it a painting, a car....the garden rake etc. 'hows it feel'...(not just a 2-D image that looks 3-D).<br>

the more you know the easier it is to slip into a train of thought that becomes mecanicle, or tecnicaly perfect, as such it can lose that very facter and becomes nothing more than 'a photo' in the sence that a machine reproduced an exact copy, another machine printed it..so no human factor.<br>

'Art' being a 'free hand', or has the human facter of creativity, which in a lot of photograghy really does have the individuality or style 'of', so certainly does dipict or evoke a 'responce' that has been created.. so again, is an 'art'.</p>

<p>a loverly play on word's no more no less........... ' i desided it wasnt' the other 90 people desided it was art... here's where words and popularity enter the twighlight zone and become politicaly motivated into popularity and keeping up with the jones's and any real meaning or value is lost in the arguement of individuals who've rightfully or rongfully claimed the fame for themselves.<br>

'did you like it', what has that got to do with another persons veiw...freedom. (apon stamping out the 3 year olds art and installing some one elses?.....)</p>

<p>arts what you make, with whatever you make it.....polotics is the art of stealing some one elses for your own, or plainly aflicting your own onto another..that isnt 'art' it's an act of agresion, an act to steal or distroy.<br>

the big question here is, if you 'conform' to the mass's are you prostituting your self? or merely apllying your skill(art) to an end.</p>

<p>a quote 'my religion is my own and not for sale. My art you can buy, take it or leave it'.</p>